The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?

[Nicholas]

😂😂😂

I wonder if that was a slip of tongue?

Maybe AA didn’t mean to say what she was thinking?

I know that lots of prisoners become extremely religious and tell everyone they’ve found God...strange, isn’t it?😌

In his case he’s chosen to pray to Allah — so no more bacon sarnies for him!

God, the more that comes out about him the more he fits every trait of a typical life-term prisoner who plays the system...

Probably not

She’s indicated he’s greedy when it comes to money

[Nicholas]

😂😂😂

I wonder if that was a slip of tongue?

Maybe AA didn’t mean to say what she was thinking?

I know that lots of prisoners become extremely religious and tell everyone they’ve found God...strange, isn’t it?😌

In his case he’s chosen to pray to Allah — so no more bacon sarnies for him!

God, the more that comes out about him the more he fits every trait of a typical life-term prisoner who plays the system...

According to Aunt Agatha she was sent the draft of Wilkes book to read through - did you know that?

I don't know how it works today but before Wilkes ' book came out I was sent the draft to read through as Jeremy could not receive it all.  Please bare in mind when judging that book, Jeremy and I were grasping at straws:  we were working in the dark. Light was only shed on his case a few years back. At the time , we tried to cover everything..... With hindsight , we knew so little.

[Nicholas]

She’s indicated he’s greedy when it comes to money

Aunt Agatha has also said Bamber lies and is aggressive - actually what she said was he ‘became more aggressive‘

until he began to control the Groups and the campaign.  He had never tried to control me before....and I feel he found me difficult to deal with, so yes, he changed again.  He began to lie to me and become more aggressive towards me......however, T***** B***** was the main cause behind that.  Her lies upset and confused him.....wasted his time chasing flying pigs whilst he should have been concentrating on his campaign.

[Nicholas]

Thank you, Daisy

The link you’ve sent states that the Godparent must be present; however, in special circumstances where one can’t attend the Church may allow the absent Godparent to “attend” by Skype. Obviously, this new rule has been made for this day and age and is recent. Regardless, even had that been allowed way back when, Jeremy Bamber isn’t allowed use of the internet — so that couldn’t have happened. Besides the prison not allowing it, the Church would balk at the idea of such a revolting suggestion.

Further, as AA has two twin boys, I can’t see any vicar/priest allowing a convicted double child murderer becoming a Godparent — they expect Godparents to be decent, kind, and to be a part of their godchild’s life, bringing them up in the Christian faith. Furthermore, AA states that Jeremy became religious in prison (like so many do 😌) and became a Muslim. So that too would mean he couldn’t become a Christian Godfather.

Bamber probably isn’t officially their Godfather and suspect it’s seen as more of a ‘status’ thing

[Nicholas]

Would be interested to hear how Aunt Agatha thinks SC had the ‘time’ and ‘know how’ to murder her children, parents, then herself

Today I do not Campaign or work in any way for Jeremy's release.  I gave that up years ago!

Neither am I concerned regarding his release or continued imprisonment.

Any feelings or desires I had then with regard to helping him further have now dissipated - the day he chose to believe a bunch of complete strangers over me was the day I turned my back on him.

I do however remain of the view that Sheila did have the time and know-how, to kill her immediate family.

It is not that I believe that Jeremy 'could not do it'....that would be quite pathetic, but I do believe in what he told me all those years ago......and only recently did facts to prove the statements he made to me become public.

Jeremy never changed his story - not once!!

He did not 'hate' his family....that is far from true in IMO.

He did not try to sell photo's to the Sun newspaper.......the paper got in touch with him asking he bring modelling photo's of Sheila. Jeremy took a bunch of photo's.  They wanted to buy some - Jeremy refused to sell them!

As for making a breakfast the following morning:  Many officers had worked through the night and continued to stay well past their shift ending.  Jeremy was in a confused and very upset state.  He was told to go and rest by the officers. He could not and wanted to keep busy - just doing something in order to help in some small way. He was told to eat but could not, however he set about cooking something for the officers on duty that morning.

I have questioned Jeremy many, many times about his actions before and after the sad events of that night.  In the back of my mind there has always been an element of doubt - 'did he do it?'     That doubt has remained with me to this day........however the doubt is there only because I was not there myself that night and I genuinely do not know exactly what happened either.   Though I will add, that during our discussions, nothing he said ever had me believe for a second that he definitely did it.

I could be wrong..........I have no qualifications or experience in defining whether a person be guilty or not guilty of anything.........all I have are my instincts, and with all the information I received from Jeremy, my instincts tell me he is innocent.

[Nicholas]

Aunt Agatha clearly wasn’t being honest when she made the claim

Today I do not Campaign or work in any way for Jeremy's release.  I gave that up years ago!

Neither am I concerned regarding his release or continued imprisonment.

[The General]

Aunt Agatha clearly wasn’t being honest when she made the claim

Who cares?

[Nicholas]

Who cares?

As John Collins pointed out in his book ‘Crime Lab Report’,

‘There seems to be an honesty deficit within the innocent movement’

Bamber’s innocence fraud is often highlighted by those who campaign for him - or in Aunt Agathas case - have campaigned for him

‘Malicious tactics’ is another way to describe innocence fraud

[The General]

As John Collins pointed out in his book ‘Crime Lab Report’,

‘There seems to be an honesty deficit within the innocent movement’

Bamber’s innocence fraud is often highlighted by those who campaign for him - or in Aunt Agathas case - have campaigned for him

But that would suggest she's complicit in some sort of fraud, which is patently not the case. She fundamentally believe him innocent and is not some co-conspirator. Surely you know only too well how one can be persuaded?

[Nicholas]

She fundamentally believe him innocent and is not some co-conspirator.

Maybe Aunt Agatha should take a lie detector test because it seems to me her views on Bamber’s stance change with the wind

[Nicholas]

But that would suggest she's complicit in some sort of fraud

Aunt Agatha has lied on this forum several times

What motivated her to do so I don’t know

One example is when she made claim she had ‘never ever‘ posted photos of Bamber’s possessions

I have never, Ever, posted photos of Jeremy's belongings until the other day.

I know I haven't as they haven't been out the box to photograph.

Anybody else seen these so called photos I was supposed to have uploaded.?

I've just read that and you're right. I must have posted it briefly then deleted it immediately afterwards.

I know for certain, unless you've copied it Nicholas, that no photos other than what I put on here recently, exist.

I apologise for my error.

Even when Aunt Agatha’s showed to be wrong she doesn’t fully accept she was wrong she claims, ‘I know for certain, unless you've copied it Nicholas, that no photos other than what I put on here recently, exist

[The General]

Aunt Agatha has lied on this forum several times

What motivated her to do so I don’t know

One example is when she made claim she had ‘never ever‘ posted photos of Bamber’s possessions

I honestly don't think it warrants constant beration. She's clearly in love with the guy and it looks to me like she would be willing to defend him with her last breath. Just leave her to it.
There's no ulterior motive, she's not a propaganda conduit.

[Nicholas]

she's not a propaganda conduit.

You don’t think ?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11464.msg588683#msg588683

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10266.msg479345/topicseen.html#msg479345

[Nicholas]

There's no ulterior motive

Am not so sure

I've just read that and you're right. I must have posted it briefly then deleted it immediately afterwards.

I know for certain, unless you've copied it Nicholas, that no photos other than what I put on here recently, exist.

I apologise for my error.

Maybe you can explain what she meant by the above ?

[Nicholas]

and is not some co-conspirator

Would you define someone like Mike Tesco as a ‘co conspirator’ to Bamber’s innocence fraud ?