Author Topic: Met Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley gives update on the search for Madeleine McCann.  (Read 43122 times)

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Offline G-Unit

How does G-Unit get away with peddling this libellous garbage?

I'm sure Ferryman wishes my post was libellous garbage, but it isn't.
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Offline G-Unit

You are making things up
Rowley says the Portuguese ruled out the parents
They investigated them and could find no real evidence against them SY looked at this and agreed
Rowley was quite definite the McCanns were not involved

What am I making up?

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Offline misty

I'm sure Ferryman wishes my post was libellous garbage, but it isn't.

The SC had no jurisdiction to rule on guilt in Madeleine's disappearance. The PJ had no evidence of the parents' involvement in any crime against Madeleine so to suggest otherwise is libellous.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Nobody is interested in the failures of 2007 to solve Madeleine's case.

The interest now lies in where "the critical lead" has the potential to correct those failures in the initial investigation.

The shelving in 2008 is absolutely nothing to crow about ... it was not a triumph ...  it was an admission of defeat which spectacularly let Madeleine McCann down very badly indeed.
In my opinion the shelving of her case was officially and disgracefully writing her off and abandoning her to her fate without a care in the world about what that might be.

As proved by the present inquiry ... there were many investigative avenues which could have and should have been investigated back in 2007.
They could have been and should have been.  The question is ... why weren't they?
Sorry, I must have misread the archiving report.

Did it say there were lots of investigative avenues remaining?

The one I remember was along the lines of nothing further to investigate 'cos we are blocked on a reconstruction.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Sorry, I must have misread the archiving report.

Did it say there were lots of investigative avenues remaining?

The one I remember was along the lines of nothing further to investigate 'cos we are blocked on a reconstruction.

SY looked through the files and decided there were things worth investigating....simple...

Offline ShiningInLuz

Including The Cell Phone Log.  None of which appears to have even been looked at.  Apart from those pertaining to The McCanns.
There's yards of cell phone material in the PJ Files.

Kindly stop saying it hasn't been looked at.  It has.
What's up, old man?

Offline ShiningInLuz

The McCanns were thoroughly investigated by the first investigation and (rightly) ruled out.

The Portuguese prosecutors even said that Kate and Gerry could not, reasonably, have been expected to foresee an abduction 0f any of their children.

Couldn't be clearer.
Ruled them out of a charge of neglect.

Couldn't be clearer.
What's up, old man?

Offline ShiningInLuz

i havebeen saying for a couple of years that with the parents being ruled out abduction becomes the most likely scenario...SY agree with me...we cant both be wrong
Let me see.

You are putting yourself in the same category as a team which dug up Luz to find, allegedly, a sock and a cannabis plant.

 *&*%£
What's up, old man?

Offline Eleanor

There's yards of cell phone material in the PJ Files.

Kindly stop saying it hasn't been looked at.  It has.

There's Looked At and there's Looked At.  Which kind of Looked At did they do?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Rowley says clearly that the pj collected the call data but didn't analyse it
Have you read it
Perhaps they just didn't do it to the level SY wanted
Another example of 'if only this had happened in the UK'.

What does 'the level SY wanted' have to with the price of chips?

 8((()*/
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

There's yards of cell phone material in the PJ Files.

Kindly stop saying it hasn't been looked at.  It has.

Some of it was.  Unfortunately it appears, only that which was of interest to "the investigation".
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Everything which was an operational matter passed me by ... mainly because the investigation teams failed to keep me in the loop regarding their activities.

Hence there are certain issues which have passed me by and for which I am reliant on quotes from those in the know which they have allowed into the public domain.

In the post to which you refer, I have expressed no opinion regarding the phone analysis in the PJ files. 
The referral is to the actuality of the situation as found by Scotland Yard in the course of their investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.


Transcript of interview between AC Mark Rowley (MR) and broadcast media for use from 21:00hrs on Tuesday, 25 April.
Q: As I understand it, the key to your suspicion about those four suspects was very much to do with their use of mobile phones and one of the criticisms of the original Portuguese police investigation was that they didn’t interrogate the mobile phone data as thoroughly as they could have done. How important was it for you as that part of your investigation for you to pick up and thoroughly investigate the mobile phone data?
 
MR: So that phone data is always something we will look at and we wouldn’t have had it available if the Portuguese had not got hold of it at the time so we need to be careful about criticism. But we had the data available and we worked with the Portuguese and that was part of the background to do with phone data and various sightings. There was enough there to say, not to prove the case, but there was something worth looking at in more detail and that’s what we did.
Are these the same people made arguidos in July 2014 but apparently no longer persons of interest?

Reality is a hard task master for some.
What's up, old man?

Offline jassi

Do we know if any of this much vaunted phone data has proved to be of any use? It doesn't seem to have led to any 'break through'
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline carlymichelle

I'm sure Ferryman wishes my post was libellous garbage, but it isn't.

 @)(++(* denial  is still around  supporters

Offline ShiningInLuz

SY looked through the files and decided there were things worth investigating....simple...
A sock on a small hill in Luz?

One could not make this up if one tried.
What's up, old man?