Where were Jez and Gerry standing when they did their talking? Ideas solutions

[Brietta]

Why not?

She may have been perfectly capable of doing so ... isn't Velcro wonderful ... but she did not.  Her shoes were still in the apartment hence the alarm felt later when Jane described the barefoot child she had witnessed being carried from the direction of Block 5.

[Robittybob1]

they were likely to be velcro as in this high resolution image

[slartibartfast]

She may have been perfectly capable of doing so ... isn't Velcro wonderful ... but she did not.  Her shoes were still in the apartment hence the alarm felt later when Jane described the barefoot child she had witnessed being carried from the direction of Block 5.

Do you have the cite for the shoes in the apartment?

[Robittybob1]

Do you have the cite for the shoes in the apartment?

Yes it was in Amy Tierney's statement.  "The first idea that occurred to her was that the girl could have left by her own means, however after checking that the window was open and the shutter raised she asked the parents whether Madeleine's shoes were there, to which they replied that they were, these facts led her to think that Madeleine could have been taken by someone."  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/AMY-ELLEN-TIERNEY.htm

[Brietta]

Do you have the cite for the shoes in the apartment?

Yes.

[Robittybob1]

So now knowing they were velcro straps she could have possibly done them up herself but they weren't on her.  Could she find them in the dark room?  Was she too much in a hurry to do this?

[Brietta]

So now knowing they were velcro straps she could have possibly done them up herself but they weren't on her.  Could she find them in the dark room?  Was she too much in a hurry to do this?

Speed was of the essence, not for her but for whoever lifted her and carried her away, therefore in my opinion shoes would be the least of their thoughts.

[Robittybob1]

Speed was of the essence, not for her but for whoever lifted her and carried her away, therefore in my opinion shoes would be the least of their thoughts.

That is where you and I diverge in opinions, I think she left the apartment on foot all by herself.   If an abduction occurred it was from the outside of the apartment IMO.

[Brietta]

That is where you and I diverge in opinions, I think she left the apartment on foot all by herself.   If an abduction occurred it was from the outside of the apartment IMO.

If she had gone on her own it is my opinion that she would have put her shoes on.

[John]

That is where you and I diverge in opinions, I think she left the apartment on foot all by herself.   If an abduction occurred it was from the outside of the apartment IMO.

Two tracker dogs appear to agree.

[faithlilly]

Yes.

It's forum etiquette to provide it then and we know what a stickler you are for forum etiquette Brietta.

[Robittybob1]

If she had gone on her own it is my opinion that she would have put her shoes on.

If she had planned to walk away I might agree with you.  If she had wanted to start a new life then she would have put them on.  If she was woke up startled maybe she wouldn't. Opinion only.

[Robittybob1]

Two tracker dogs appear to agree.

There doesn't seem to be any real thing stopping her.

[John]

If she had planned to walk away I might agree with you.  If she had wanted to start a new life then she would have put them on.  If she was woke up startled maybe she wouldn't. Opinion only.

Young children who wake up distressed don't usually bother with the niceties of life such as a coat and shoes before going out.  The internet is littered with examples of very young children escaping their confines in the strangest of situations.

[misty]

A case of a barefooted wandering toddler, younger than Madeleine, carrying his shoes. (with a happy outcome).

http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/30/toddler-found-wandering-alone-dual-carriageway-1am-7191813/
Saturday 30 Dec 2017 8:53 am



A toddler was found wandering alone barefoot on a dual carriageway at 1am. A shocked Sainsbury’s truck driver spotted the boy, who was holding his shoes, walking alongside the A43 in Northampton on Thursday morning. E The 35-year-old driver from Grantham, who wanted to remain anonymous, immediately stopped his vehicle, got out and then brought the child, aged between two and three, back to the truck. ‘I saw something but didn’t think anything of it,’ he told Lincolnshire Live. ‘It was only when I went to move into the second lane and got closer that I realised what it was. I thought to myself: “Oh my God, that’s a child.” ‘He cried when I picked him up, he was freezing cold, bless him.’
The truck driver called police and then asked the boy where his mum and dad were but he could not understand what he was trying to say. Officers eventually arrived and took the boy to a local police station. He was held under safeguarding measures and was re-united with his parents at 4.45am after police had made enquiries.