Where is the alert on Cuddle Cat happening and is it on video?

[Robittybob1]

Just expressing an opinion.
There are non so blind than those who will not see.
Try as I might I just can't see a admin or mod logo on your avatar.

It has been a long time but it is still time to work it out IMO.  Who had previously noted that the PJ and Martin Grime give different places for the alert on Cuddle Cat?   Who else noted that CC had been moved but it was not established when, so there was no proof CC was the source of the alerts near the side board in the dining room?

[barrier]

It has been a long time but it is still time to work it out IMO.  Who had previously noted that the PJ and Martin Grime give different places for the alert on Cuddle Cat?   Who else noted that CC had been moved but it was not established when so there was no proof CC was the source of the alerts near the side board in the dining room?

Given that the real experts ie:SY and the PJ don't seem to be the least interested in this particular subject just what do you expect to be worked out?

[G-Unit]

What we are discussing is the false claims, Re grimes opinion... In his, statement grime says it's possible the dog alerted to cadaver... Just possible... Yet G wants to claim his opinion is that they did

He used the word suggestive, not possible. In my opinion changing a witness's words demonstrates that the poster isn't too concerned with accuracy.

A certain supporter website, when criticising the MMRG's leaflet made the same point about the word 'notoriously' was used instead of 'incredibly'.

I have quoted Grime's actual words, not my interpretation of them.

[Robittybob1]

Given that the real experts ie:SY and the PJ don't seem to be the least interested in this particular subject just what do you expect to be worked out?

Well I'm working on developing a picture of what was going on.  It is too early to say what I expect yet. I don't even know if anyone has really kept up with my thinking on the case as it would be hard to follow.

[Mr Gray]

He used the word suggestive, not possible. In my opinion changing a witness's words demonstrates that the poster isn't too concerned with accuracy.

A certain supporter website, when criticising the MMRG's leaflet made the same point about the word 'notoriously' was used instead of 'incredibly'.

I have quoted Grime's actual words, not my interpretation of them.

MINISTERIO PUBLICO DE PORTIMAO

"It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to 'a cadaver scent'
contaminant. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence."

Martin Grime
 

I havent changed anything..as my CITE shows grime used the word possible in his witness statement...so it is grime who is changing the word...once again you have been proven wrong

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm#mg2473

[slartibartfast]

A cite for where I have created a myth... Otherwise  you need to remove your claim

I have been quite meticulous in my posts Re the dogs... Always providing cites... G unit on the sceptic side has made several innaccurate posts recently  and failed to provide cites...

And cite for Eddie alerted to what he was trained for

And of course both Harrison and Grime have said that the uncomfirmed alerts are unreliable

For those who have followed the thread I've sent an email to see if I can get a copy of the review where the evidence Re the dogs was deemed unreliable

The evidence provided by the dog handler was deemed unreliable

The best cadaver dogs in the world...found nothing...even after being repeatedly called back

Cite for the dog alerts were the key piece of evidence ,,,,its just your opinion....and its my opinion that the alerts in the mccann case..based on common sense...the way the dogs were repeatedly called back...the testimony of grime and harrison...are unreliable in this case

I think that's, a pretty damning condemnation of the alerts.. Don't you

The review body however decided that the cafaver dog evidence was unreliable

Isn’t it about time sceptics faced the truth re the alerts

Etc etc etc

Myth making.

[Mr Gray]

Myth making.

IN YOUR OPINION

Everything I have posted is true... as opposed to gunit where I have pointed out several things that are not true..

Could you post something I have posted Re the dogs that is not true... If not you need to remove your post... Posting facts is not myth making

[Alice Purjorick]

You have misunderstood his opinion.. He states the alerts are suggestive of cadaver odour not are cadaver odour...

You said independent  scientific testing... What you have quoted IS NOT... who does the testing?

Scent on a couple of gauze pads is NOT scientific testing

I'm happy with Grimes expert opinion... The alerts have no evidential  value

Were he an expert witness in court he would not be allowed to express that opinion.

[Mr Gray]

Were he an expert witness in court he would not be allowed to express that opinion.

The fact that he has stated it could be raised in court as evidence

[G-Unit]

MINISTERIO PUBLICO DE PORTIMAO

"It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to 'a cadaver scent'
contaminant. No evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from this
alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating evidence."

Martin Grime

I havent changed anything..as my CITE shows grime used the word possible in his witness statement...so it is grime who is changing the word...once again you have been proven wrong

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm#mg2473

It seems he said a few things, but I prefer the quote where he mentions his professional opinion although it's all his professional opinion really.

[Mr Gray]

It might help if you provided links. Something else that the supporter site criticised the MMRG about.

It seems he said a few things, but I prefer the quote where he mentions his professional opinion although it's all his professional opinion really.

His professional opinion was that it was possible that the alerts were to cadaver....he also said they were suggestive at a a later date I believe...what he DOESN'T say is that the are to cadaver in his opinion...which is what you claimed

[Alice Purjorick]

The fact that he has stated it could be raised in court as evidence

Explain presisely how then.
Including the bit where the judge will have given him a flea in his ear for trying to usurp the courts powers.

[Mr Gray]

Explain presisely how then.
Including the bit where the judge will have given him a flea in his ear for trying to usurp the courts powers.

so you are suggesting grime desrves a flea in his ear...and harrison...they are both stating their opinion to the police so your claim makes no sense..

[G-Unit]

It has been a long time but it is still time to work it out IMO.  Who had previously noted that the PJ and Martin Grime give different places for the alert on Cuddle Cat?   Who else noted that CC had been moved but it was not established when so there was no proof CC was the source of the alerts near the side board in the dining room?

Sorry for not being interested in your CC thoughts, Rob. I just don't see the point in speculating about the how and why of it. The searches were directed and overseen by the two best experts the UK had, so anything amateurs have to say is irrelevant in my opinion.

[Mr Gray]

Sorry for not being interested in your CC thoughts, Rob. I just don't see the point in speculating about the how and why of it. The searches were directed and overseen by the two best experts the UK had, so anything amateurs have to say is irrelevant in my opinion.

yet how many amateurs here criticise the experts at SY