What if Mrs Fenn had called the police the night of the crying?

[Robittybob1]

struggling!

[Carana]

Russell said he wasn't there on quiz night TUE - Read on:

Tuesday, the day that I wasn’t there, erm, that, that I think it was that, you know, there was an aerobics instructor who, this is second-hand information, who was drumming up some support for, you know, some group called Pool Aerobics or something, from the people who were there.  Erm, and the only reason I mentioned that was, if you had that information in other people’s statements about what night the quiz took place on, that was the night I wasn’t there”.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

Yes, because the little one was sick, so he stayed and Jane ferried his food to him.

Could she have been the one crying that evening? Even if possibly followed by Amelie at around or just after midnight?

[faithlilly]

Yes, because the little one was sick, so he stayed and Jane ferried his food to him.

Could she have been the one crying that evening? Even if possibly followed by Amelie at around or just after midnight?

So both children howled Daddy, Daddy, even though their dads were there at the time. Further Amelie’s crying was too late and it wasn’t loud enough to wake her parents never mind someone in another apartment.

Still that little tale did its job but conveniently muddying the waters. Well done Gerry.

[Carana]

So both children howled Daddy, Daddy, even though their dads were there at the time. Further Amelie’s crying was too late and it wasn’t loud enough to wake her parents never mind someone in another apartment.

Still that little tale did its job but conveniently muddying the waters. Well done Gerry.

Mrs Fenn said that the sound of crying "got louder and more expressive", apparently. It doesn't say at what point she thought she heard a child crying "Daddy". Perfectly reasonable question to ask, IMO, as it could have been Russell's child objecting to an evening washdown.

Were either of the McCanns asked what, if anything, Madeleine actually said later that Tuesday night when she came to their room?

[kizzy]

John, we only have the thoughts and words of an old woman that the crying came from 5A.

It could have been at a number of apartments that the crying happened.  With hearing problems such as old people usually get (differential hearing in the two ears), it is impossible to tell from which direction sound is coming.  I myself am in that position.

The fact that only one child was crying makes it more likely that the sound came from another apartment with only one child.  All three would have been at it, had it been at the Mccanns apartment.

Is it possible that the hearing device belonging to THe Oldfields failed, or that they forgot to switch it on?

Did The Moyes have any young children?.  How about the people in the next door flat to The Moyes.


Any of those could have slipped out on to their balcony


We just dont know and IMO it is unfair to attribute, as fact, that it was one of The Mccann children.  Had it been, all three of them would have been howling IMO

Just one excuse really after the other imo

maddie told the mccanns - why didn't you come when i was crying

[faithlilly]

Mrs Fenn said that the sound of crying "got louder and more expressive", apparently. It doesn't say at what point she thought she heard a child crying "Daddy". Perfectly reasonable question to ask, IMO, as it could have been Russell's child objecting to an evening washdown.

Were either of the McCanns asked what, if anything, Madeleine actually said later that Tuesday night when she came to their room?

Are you honestly suggesting that two children cried that night, one in 5a and one 2 apartments away from Mrs Fenn, and did so in such a seamless way that Mrs Fenn couldn’t tell the difference between the two ?

[kizzy]

No one can confirm how long the crying lasted

They should not have been crying for there parents in the first place.

never mind how long it lasted...what if the police had of been called. finding a distressed child.

I Wish someone could confirm what happens in portugal for child abandonment 

because that is what they did  -  for well over an hour IMO

[pathfinder73]

Mrs Fenn said that the sound of crying "got louder and more expressive", apparently. It doesn't say at what point she thought she heard a child crying "Daddy". Perfectly reasonable question to ask, IMO, as it could have been Russell's child objecting to an evening washdown.

Were either of the McCanns asked what, if anything, Madeleine actually said later that Tuesday night when she came to their room?

Don't be ridiculous. Russell would leave his child crying for 75 minutes. Jane did not stop it either? Mrs. Fenn was too far away from their apartment.

[Carana]

Just one excuse really after the other imo

maddie told the mccanns - why didn't you come when i was crying

Not the morning after when Mrs Fenn thought she'd heard a child crying below her, though. And no one appears to have actually heard a child crying on the Wednesday night.

Could have simply been a dream.

[kizzy]

Not the morning after when Mrs Fenn thought she'd heard a child crying below her, though. And no one appears to have actually heard a child crying on the Wednesday night.

Could have simply been a dream.

Did ever kmccann deny that maddie was crying .

[faithlilly]

Not the morning after when Mrs Fenn thought she'd heard a child crying below her, though. And no one appears to have actually heard a child crying on the Wednesday night.

Could have simply been a dream.

Who was dreaming ?

[slartibartfast]

Not the morning after when Mrs Fenn thought she'd heard a child crying below her, though. And no one appears to have actually heard a child crying on the Wednesday night.

Could have simply been a dream.

Always possible Madeleine remembered the day after. I.e. happened on Tuesday night and remembered on Thursday morning. Or Kate misremembered and Madeleine spoke on Wednesday morning.

[Robittybob1]

Always possible Madeleine remembered the day after. I.e. happened on Tuesday night and remembered on Thursday morning. Or Kate misremembered and Madeleine spoke on Wednesday morning.

Possible.

[Lace]

Don't be ridiculous. Russell would leave his child crying for 75 minutes. Jane did not stop it either? Mrs. Fenn was too far away from their apartment.

Hello,   I notice the 'don't be ridiculous'   has not been deleted from this post.    When I say something similar it is deleted.

[Robittybob1]

Hello,   I notice the 'don't be ridiculous'   has not been deleted from this post.    When I say something similar it is deleted.

How do you know that it was the "don't be ridiculous" that the moderator objected too?