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Offline Mr Gray

Well quite. Who cares about the true facts. As long as someone is promoting the 'correct' belief' s/he will be supported and defended. IMO.

Are you sure you understand  what a fact is... Is it fact or opinion that cipriano is guilty of the death of her daughter

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v) If the dog is trained to react when he detects what he is looking for, why, in most of the cases, we see the dog passing more than once by that place in an uninterested way, until he finally signals the place where he had already passed several times'

That quote is from an analysis report written in February 2008 by the Central Department of Criminal Investigation. Having no knowledge or experience of the use of these dogs they were seeking to understand, not criticise imo. Grime was never asked those specific questions, although he received rog questons in May 2008. In my opinion the answers are in the files anyway.

All indications by the dog are preceded by a change in bahaviour. This increased handler confidence in the response. This procedure also stops handlers 'cueing' and indication. The dogs are allowed to 'free search' and investigate areas of interest. The handler does not influence their behaviour other than to direct the search.
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The finest investigators in the world have looked at this case (NSY) & they have not judged the parents to be suspects. Their suspect status was lifted by the PJ & the no credible evidence points to them. Those are facts.
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Facts that some people still cannot get their heads around, sadly.

It points at no one else either,the finest(really?) can't or won't even confirm if the girl is dead or alive they have no evidence pointing either way(MR),just where do you expect the investigtion to be heading?
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Just because it wasn’t covered in the documentary doesn’t mean it hasn’t been investigated by the police.  Don’t despair.


Don't put a mortgage on it either.
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Offline G-Unit

That is not what I said, well done for putting your own spin on it.  This is how holocaust deniers work.  They seize on a small detail in a paper or book that is incorrect or partially incorrect, and from that they rubbish the entire paper or book, and use it to reinforce their belief that the holocaust never happened..  It’s a well worn conspiracy theorist tactic.

I don't have a belief which needs reinforcung, My motive for highlighting misinformation is merely to highlight the truth. I don't respect the opinions of anyone who can't be bothered to get their facts right.
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That quote is from an analysis report written in February 2008 by the Central Department of Criminal Investigation. Having no knowledge or experience of the use of these dogs they were seeking to understand, not criticise imo. Grime was never asked those specific questions, although he received rog questons in May 2008. In my opinion the answers are in the files anyway.

All indications by the dog are preceded by a change in bahaviour. This increased handler confidence in the response. This procedure also stops handlers 'cueing' and indication. The dogs are allowed to 'free search' and investigate areas of interest. The handler does not influence their behaviour other than to direct the search.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm
It's from the files.... The dogs passed bynplaces several times, without alerting... We know from the only study that was, dine... Quoted here before... That handlers do influence the dogs... Although there us next to no scientific research to base, any conclusions on

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Are you sure you understand  what a fact is... Is it fact or opinion that cipriano is guilty of the death of her daughter

Yes I'm sure.
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It's from the files.... The dogs passed bynplaces several times, without alerting... We know from the only study that was, dine... Quoted here before... That handlers do influence the dogs... Although there us next to no scientific research to base, any conclusions on

Science can't do what dogs can do. Using just their sense of smell dogs can detect deseases, illegal substances, follow the trails of other animals and people and find blood and corpses. All science can do is confirm the sensitivity of a dog's sense of smell.

To decide which dogs and handlers are effective scientific studies aren't needed. Their track records provide the infornation.
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Science can't do what dogs can do. Using just their sense of smell dogs can detect deseases, illegal substances, follow the trails of other animals and people and find blood and corpses. All science can do is confirm the sensitivity of a dog's sense of smell.

To decide which dogs and handlers are effective scientific studies aren't needed. Their track records provide the infornation.


I was watching Canadian border police at work on tv,a drug dog was shown working and alerting to a package,it took science to find out what was in the package,the dog handler couldn't smell anything untoward with the package,until the sealed bags inside were opened confirming the dog alert with science telling us the exact contents, Marijuana.
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I was watching Canadian border police at work on tv,a drug dog was shown working and alerting to a package,it took science to find out what was in the package,the dog handler couldn't smell anything untoward with the package,until the sealed bags inside were opened confirming the dog alert with science telling us the exact contents, Marijuana.

I have watched British police who can smell Marijuana in a stopped vehicle because the occupants have veen smoking it. When the car is searched for the actual drug it can take hours for them to find it. Using a drug detection dog speeds up the process immensely. Also, if the dog finds nothing the police accept that there are no drugs concealed in the vehicle.
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Offline Mr Gray

Science can't do what dogs can do. Using just their sense of smell dogs can detect deseases, illegal substances, follow the trails of other animals and people and find blood and corpses. All science can do is confirm the sensitivity of a dog's sense of smell.

To decide which dogs and handlers are effective scientific studies aren't needed. Their track records provide the infornation.

The one and only study carried out which was quoted here shows that false alerts are given due to handler bias...the alerts themselves are not reliable...

Offline Mr Gray

Yes I'm sure.

Ciprianos guilt is opinion... Not fact

Offline Mr Gray

Yes I'm sure.

So you understand that grime gives his opinion... And it is not a fact

Offline Eleanor

Ciprianos guilt is opinion... Not fact

Cipriano's guilt is an Opinion even with a Conviction.

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v) If the dog is trained to react when he detects what he is looking for, why, in most of the cases, we see the dog passing more than once by that place in an uninterested way, until he finally signals the place where he had already passed several times'

So no one who knows what they are talking about have said that 5a was treated differently. I see. Which still begs the question, why did the dogs alert to places and items belonging to only the McCanns ?
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