Netflix launches new 8-part documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[faithlilly]

And I think you are underestimating the impact of her words.
Did you know that only one page of the report had been translated?
It's never too late to be contrite and IMO that is exactly how she looked.
 Haven't watched all the episodes yet, so I cannot comment on what she now believes.

And I think your overestimating the impact of her words. Do you think that because one journalist claims to have been lied to ( quelle surprise ) it is going to change people’s minds ? We learned that the PJ were leaking, and not always honestly,  at Leveson. We also know that Gerry was leaking, and just as dishonestly, to the British press, by way of David Smith’s Beyond the Smears article and the article posted by VS yesterday. It was very much tit for tat.

Once you’ve watched all the episodes I’d be interested in your opinion  with regards to Sandra not saying categorically that she believes the parents are innocent

[Mr Gray]

And I think your overestimating the impact of her words. Do you think that because one journalist claims to have been lied to ( quelle surprise ) it is going to change people’s minds ? We learned that the PJ were leaking, and not always honestly,  at Leveson. We also know that Gerry was leaking, and just as dishonestly, to the British press, by way of David Smith’s Beyond the Smears article and the article posted by VS yesterday. It was very much tit for tat.

Once you’ve watched all the episodes I’d be interested in your opinion  with regards to Sandra not saying categorically that she believes the parents are innocent

The revelation that the PJ had not read the full FSS report was quite damning

[Mr Gray]

In my opinion it's dispicable to dredge up any informatiion you can find to use in your mission to try to discredit the best dog trainer and handler in the UK in 2007. I have made my points before and am not interested in engaging in further off topic arguments about issues I have already discussed with you previously.

I'm quoting facts... The study... You are quoting opinion.. Grimes... I find it odd that you find that despicable... Rather a ridiculous  word to use

[Brietta]

So no one who knows what they are talking about have said that 5a was treated differently. I see. Which still begs the question, why did the dogs alert to places and items belonging to only the McCanns ?

Thus, at the appointed time, the search with the dogs began, covering the following apartments:

5A:

From 8.30pm to 9.20pm, the dogs go through.
8.20pm: The cadaver dog, "marks," the couple's wardrobe area in the bedroom.
8.22pm: The cadaver dog, "marks" an area behind the sofa in the sitting room near the window overlooking the road.
From 8.47pm to 9.20pm, the blood detecting dog goes through.
8.10 (should it be 9.10?) The dog, "marks" an area of floor behind the sofa in the sitting room, near the window overlooking the road.  ~ 110minutes

5B: 9.24 to 9.27pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

5D: 9.29 to 9.34pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 5minutes

5H : 9.35 to 9.38pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

4G : 9.42 to 9.45pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

Garden belonging to apartment 5A (with access via the balcony and the steps):

9.49 to 10pm: The cadaver dog "marks" an area of the garden immediately below the window. ~ 11minutes

Date: 01 ao? 2007 - 06h00

Inspection of the surrounding areas.

Date: August 1st - 6am

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm



The time spent by the dog inspection team in apartment 5A and the garden are in bold red and is recorded in the files as noted above ...

The time spent in the other apartments is in bold and is also recorded in the files.

There is an obvious difference in the amount of time spent in one apartment as opposed to the total amount of time spent in all the others.

[Erngath]

And I think your overestimating the impact of her words. Do you think that because one journalist claims to have been lied to ( quelle surprise ) it is going to change people’s minds ? We learned that the PJ were leaking, and not always honestly,  at Leveson. We also know that Gerry was leaking, and just as dishonestly, to the British press, by way of David Smith’s Beyond the Smears article and the article posted by VS yesterday. It was very much tit for tat.

Once you’ve watched all the episodes I’d be interested in your opinion  with regards to Sandra not saying categorically that she believes the parents are innocent

You are assuming that everyone who is watching the series of films has the same in depth knowledge of the case as you do.
Many will still be assuming the torrid newspaper headlines from years ago, ie 100% match, the "blood" found etc all to be facts.

I spoke to someone the other day who didn't even know that NSY were investigating Madeleine's disappearance.My own niece was convinced Madeleine's blood had been found in the hire car.
 Folk like will be surprised at the revelation that she was lied to by the police presumably  to smear Kate and Gerry,

Decorating at the moment.
Might be back later.

[Mr Gray]

Thus, at the appointed time, the search with the dogs began, covering the following apartments:

5A:

From 8.30pm to 9.20pm, the dogs go through.
8.20pm: The cadaver dog, "marks," the couple's wardrobe area in the bedroom.
8.22pm: The cadaver dog, "marks" an area behind the sofa in the sitting room near the window overlooking the road.
From 8.47pm to 9.20pm, the blood detecting dog goes through.
8.10 (should it be 9.10?) The dog, "marks" an area of floor behind the sofa in the sitting room, near the window overlooking the road.  ~ 110minutes

5B: 9.24 to 9.27pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

5D: 9.29 to 9.34pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 5minutes

5H : 9.35 to 9.38pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

4G : 9.42 to 9.45pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

Garden belonging to apartment 5A (with access via the balcony and the steps):

9.49 to 10pm: The cadaver dog "marks" an area of the garden immediately below the window. ~ 11minutes

Date: 01 ao? 2007 - 06h00

Inspection of the surrounding areas.

Date: August 1st - 6am

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm



The time spent by the dog inspection team in apartment 5A and the garden are in bold red and is recorded in the files as noted above ...

The time spent in the other apartments is in bold and is also recorded in the files.

There is an obvious difference in the amount of time spent in one apartment as opposed to the total amount of time spent in all the others.

Excellent find Brietta... So about 3 mins in the other appts but 110 in 5a... No wonder the dogs didn't alert in the other apartments... They didn't have time to catch their breath..

[pathfinder73]

From 8.47pm to 9.20pm, the blood detecting dog goes through

AT 9.10pm Keela alerts

110 minutes is obviously a mistake from the incorrect 8.10 time.

[faithlilly]

The revelation that the PJ had not read the full FSS report was quite damning

But not unknown and as Madeleine was known to have been in the apartment and her clothes transported in the car even if it had been Madeleine’s DNA it would add absolutely nothing to the case.

[faithlilly]

Thus, at the appointed time, the search with the dogs began, covering the following apartments:

5A:

From 8.30pm to 9.20pm, the dogs go through.
8.20pm: The cadaver dog, "marks," the couple's wardrobe area in the bedroom.
8.22pm: The cadaver dog, "marks" an area behind the sofa in the sitting room near the window overlooking the road.
From 8.47pm to 9.20pm, the blood detecting dog goes through.
8.10 (should it be 9.10?) The dog, "marks" an area of floor behind the sofa in the sitting room, near the window overlooking the road.  ~ 110minutes

5B: 9.24 to 9.27pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

5D: 9.29 to 9.34pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 5minutes

5H : 9.35 to 9.38pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

4G : 9.42 to 9.45pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything. ~ 3minutes

Garden belonging to apartment 5A (with access via the balcony and the steps):

9.49 to 10pm: The cadaver dog "marks" an area of the garden immediately below the window. ~ 11minutes

Date: 01 ao? 2007 - 06h00

Inspection of the surrounding areas.

Date: August 1st - 6am

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm



The time spent by the dog inspection team in apartment 5A and the garden are in bold red and is recorded in the files as noted above ...

The time spent in the other apartments is in bold and is also recorded in the files.

There is an obvious difference in the amount of time spent in one apartment as opposed to the total amount of time spent in all the others.

There is I agree and Martin Grime says Eddie’s behaviour changed as soon as he entered 5a and I assume this didn’t happen in the other apartments so perhaps that’s why more time was spent there.....otherwise you would be questioning Grime’s integrity and I know you wouldn’t do that, would you Brietta ?

[ShiningInLuz]

You dont have a cadaver dog....

I've got the photos to prove it.

What have you got?   

[faithlilly]

You are assuming that everyone who is watching the series of films has the same in depth knowledge of the case as you do.
Many will still be assuming the torrid newspaper headlines from years ago, ie 100% match, the "blood" found etc all to be facts.

I spoke to someone the other day who didn't even know that NSY were investigating Madeleine's disappearance.My own niece was convinced Madeleine's blood had been found in the hire car.
 Folk like will be surprised at the revelation that she was lied to by the police presumably  to smear Kate and Gerry,

Decorating at the moment.
Might be back later.

I’m sure it was to smear the parents, just as the leaking by the parents was to smear the PJ. All very undignified.

You seem to place a lot of importance on public opinion, mistakenly imo.

[Mr Gray]

I've got the photos to prove it.

What have you got?   

What have I got... Common sense
You have a dog that Barks... A cadaver is a human corpse... You say you found one on your property ...could you post a photo

[ShiningInLuz]

What have I got... Common sense
You have a dog that Barks... A cadaver is a human corpse... You say you found one on your property ...could you post a photo

A cadaver is a corpse.  A dead body. Yes, I've still got one on my property.

And yes, I will get around to publishing my cadaver dog, complete with cadaver photos on my blog.  When I have finished studying the decomposition.

Hit me with your best shot.  What have you got?

[Erngath]

I’m sure it was to smear the parents, just as the leaking by the parents was to smear the PJ. All very undignified.

You seem to place a lot of importance on public opinion, mistakenly imo.

Do you not believe that public opinion is important or just not important in this case?

[Mr Gray]

A cadaver is a corpse.  A dead body. Yes, I've still got one on my property.

And yes, I will get around to publishing my cadaver dog, complete with cadaver photos on my blog.  When I have finished studying the decomposition.

Hit me with your best shot.  What have you got?

what have I got,,,...common sense..

A cadaver is a human corpse...not a dead animal... your dog barks at live cats and no doubt many other things