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Offline Erngath

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #480 on: July 09, 2019, 11:54:14 AM »
Those that you identify as being beastly to the McCanns of course

So those very few sceptics who feel the need to remind the readership fairly frequently of their " beastly" feelings towards Madeleine's parents?
I'm sure the small readership are well aware of their feelings by now!

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #481 on: July 09, 2019, 12:13:12 PM »
So those very few sceptics who feel the need to remind the readership fairly frequently of their " beastly" feelings towards Madeleine's parents?
I'm sure the small readership are well aware of their feelings by now!


Don't they also spread the word on twitter & Facebook ? Potentially a rather wider audience
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #482 on: July 09, 2019, 01:45:38 PM »
I've come to the conclusion that the open window/shutter was 'staged' by the perp to throw investigators and that the perp entered and exited via the patio door and upon leaving with MM he/she carefully closed the door, curtain, child gate and gate leading to road. 

Who...

- Knew MM was 'home alone' every night Sun to Thu from 8.30pm to 11pm ish?

- Knew the patio door was unlocked

- Knew T9 were eating at Tapas

- Knew T9 were checking every 30 mins

- Knew when T9 were all seated

Imo the perp is someone who was a guest at MW and who had a 'room with a view' allowing him/her to observe the above. Probably had a hire car too.  An MW guest fits all the known facts.

They went through the car park when checking so who in their right mind would open a window and shutter for all to see? And nobody did see it before Kate  8)--))

Why were no glove marks on the window? Don't you think they planned to use gloves in this remarkable operation? What is even more remarkable is the only prints found on the window in question!  8)--))
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 01:48:23 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #483 on: July 09, 2019, 02:02:14 PM »
They went through the car park when checking so who in their right mind would open a window and shutter for all to see? And nobody did see it before Kate  8)--))

Why were no glove marks on the window? Don't you think they planned to use gloves in this remarkable operation? What is even more remarkable is the only prints found on the window in question!  8)--))

There were other prints found on the window

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #484 on: July 09, 2019, 02:06:43 PM »
There were other prints found on the window

No doubt, instead of just teasing us, you will be good enough to fill in the blanks.

What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #485 on: July 09, 2019, 02:09:44 PM »
No doubt, instead of just teasing us, you will be good enough to fill in the blanks.

It would be like painting the forth bridge

It was discussed a couple of days, ago... So I'm sure most posters, saw,  it
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 02:15:49 PM by Davel »

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #486 on: July 09, 2019, 02:51:27 PM »
It would be like painting the forth bridge

It was discussed a couple of days, ago... So I'm sure most posters, saw,  it

OK.  I'll just ignore your comment then.

By the way, they have stopped the act of permanently repainting the Forth Bridge.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #487 on: July 09, 2019, 03:09:37 PM »
OK.  I'll just ignore your comment then.

By the way, they have stopped the act of permanently repainting the Forth Bridge.

I thought  you took part in the discussion Re the smudged marks/prints/unidentified found in the shutter/blind

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #488 on: July 09, 2019, 03:42:04 PM »
I thought  you took part in the discussion Re the smudged marks/prints/unidentified found in the shutter/blind

Post 489.

Pathfinder says fingerprints on the window.

To which you replied "There were other prints found on the window "

It now appears there are no alleged missing prints from the window.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #489 on: July 09, 2019, 03:55:32 PM »
Post 489.

Pathfinder says fingerprints on the window.

To which you replied "There were other prints found on the window "

It now appears there are no alleged missing prints from the window.

I'm not being rude but do you realise we've had exactly the, same conversation before

I say prints... You say smudges

Let's call the whole thing off

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #490 on: July 09, 2019, 04:24:27 PM »
I'm not being rude but do you realise we've had exactly the, same conversation before

I say prints... You say smudges

Let's call the whole thing off



We don't need twice-translated non-verbatim statements for that!

So whose prints were the only ones found on the window?
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 08:50:33 PM by Eleanor »
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #491 on: July 09, 2019, 04:27:29 PM »


We don't need twice-translated non-verbatim statements for that!

So whose prints were the only ones found on the window?

Which window the one with the shutter.. Were prints found on the window
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 08:51:08 PM by Eleanor »

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #492 on: July 09, 2019, 04:32:43 PM »
Which window the one with the shutter.. Were prints found on the window

You know they were.

You know whose prints they are.

You know Pathfinder knows.

You know I know.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #493 on: July 09, 2019, 05:31:26 PM »
You know they were.

You know whose prints they are.

You know Pathfinder knows.

You know I know.

My sons just arrived in his 2007 lhd Renault megane... He picked it up cheap as it's an ex Portuguese police car... I just want to check again if it's possible to read the speedo from the rear seat
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 05:40:18 PM by Davel »

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #494 on: July 09, 2019, 07:25:19 PM »
I've come to the conclusion that the open window/shutter was 'staged' by the perp to throw investigators and that the perp entered and exited via the patio door and upon leaving with MM he/she carefully closed the door, curtain, child gate and gate leading to road. 

Who...

- Knew MM was 'home alone' every night Sun to Thu from 8.30pm to 11pm ish?

- Knew the patio door was unlocked

- Knew T9 were eating at Tapas

- Knew T9 were checking every 30 mins

- Knew when T9 were all seated

Imo the perp is someone who was a guest at MW and who had a 'room with a view' allowing him/her to observe the above. Probably had a hire car too.  An MW guest fits all the known facts.

I've thought about this further and my thinking was that an abductor would have a 'room with a view' and know MM was 'home alone' and the patio door unlocked by virtue of the McCanns exit for the jolly up at tapas and re-entry for checking.  However I don't believe any properties in the vicinity offer a view of the front and back of 5A?  How could any abductor know a baby sitter didn't enter via the front and/or the McCanns had a baby monitor in-situ?  Only a very finite people understood the soc!
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?