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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #495 on: July 09, 2019, 07:33:38 PM »
I've thought about this further and my thinking was that an abductor would have a 'room with a view' and know MM was 'home alone' and the patio door unlocked by virtue of the McCanns exit for the jolly up at tapas and re-entry for checking.  However I don't believe any properties in the vicinity offer a view of the front and back of 5A?  How could any abductor know a baby sitter didn't enter via the front and/or the McCanns had a baby monitor in-situ?  Only a very finite people understood the soc!

Well, ofcourse that was  noticed  and mentioned and the reply was. there was a gang of them all watching,probably one was  a plebotomist  to check blood lines and all that... and one would be the 'cleaner' you know the person who cleans up after abductions, murders like   in the movies ...
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline jassi

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #496 on: July 09, 2019, 07:35:12 PM »
Well, ofcourse that was  noticed  and mentioned and the reply was. there was a gang of them all watching,probably one was  a plebotomist  to check blood lines and all that... and one would be the 'cleaner' you know the person who cleans up after abductions, murders like   in the movies ...

Then there would be the anaesthetist for the sedation.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #497 on: July 09, 2019, 07:52:52 PM »
I've thought about this further and my thinking was that an abductor would have a 'room with a view' and know MM was 'home alone' and the patio door unlocked by virtue of the McCanns exit for the jolly up at tapas and re-entry for checking.  However I don't believe any properties in the vicinity offer a view of the front and back of 5A?  How could any abductor know a baby sitter didn't enter via the front and/or the McCanns had a baby monitor in-situ?  Only a very finite people understood the soc!

I think you are undervaluing your theory.

There is no need for a front and back view, though several properties have it.

There is no need to check on a baby sitter or a monitor every half hour.
What's up, old man?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #498 on: July 09, 2019, 08:08:13 PM »
I think you are undervaluing your theory.

There is no need for a front and back view, though several properties have it.

Do they?  From the various images it appears to me that those that can view the front can't view the back and vice-versa.  Which properties can view both?

There is no need to check on a baby sitter or a monitor every half hour.

I know but any would be abductor would not necessarily think the McCanns and T7 were checking unsupervised properties?  They might think the parents were just checking on baby sitters and/or reacting to baby monitors? 

Only one person had direct knowledge that the McCanns were entering via the unlocked patio doors AND MM was left crying ie no baby sitter/monitor. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #499 on: July 09, 2019, 08:55:55 PM »
Do they?  From the various images it appears to me that those that can view the front can't view the back and vice-versa.  Which properties can view both?

I know but any would be abductor would not necessarily think the McCanns and T7 were checking unsupervised properties?  They might think the parents were just checking on baby sitters and/or reacting to baby monitors? 

Only one person had direct knowledge that the McCanns were entering via the unlocked patio doors AND MM was left crying ie no baby sitter/monitor.

Everywhere in block 5 can monitor front and back.

Some properties in block 6 can monitor front and back.

Some properties in block 4 can possibly monitor front and back, oddly enough 4G is one.

Moving on, if you had hired a baby sitter or had a monitor, why would you conduct allegedly frequent checks?
What's up, old man?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #500 on: July 10, 2019, 07:12:58 AM »
Everywhere in block 5 can monitor front and back.

Some properties in block 6 can monitor front and back.

Some properties in block 4 can possibly monitor front and back, oddly enough 4G is one.

Moving on, if you had hired a baby sitter or had a monitor, why would you conduct allegedly frequent checks?

But can they monitor both simultaneously?  Can they be sure a sitter or other adult wasn't present despite the checks?

I guess if you hired a sitter and had a difficult to settle child you might have a need for repeat turns.  If a monitor in-situ then you might be responding to alerts.  I'm just trying to think from the perspective of an abductor and I think he/she would still be wary about entering for the reasons mentioned.  As I said there's only 1 person outside T9 who knew MM was 'home alone' without a monitor. 



Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline sadie

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #501 on: July 10, 2019, 10:23:09 PM »
But can they monitor both simultaneously?  Can they be sure a sitter or other adult wasn't present despite the checks?

I guess if you hired a sitter and had a difficult to settle child you might have a need for repeat turns.  If a monitor in-situ then you might be responding to alerts.  I'm just trying to think from the perspective of an abductor and I think he/she would still be wary about entering for the reasons mentioned.  As I said there's only 1 person outside T9 who knew MM was 'home alone' without a monitor.

No, I don't think so, unless two people were in these flats,   Just one direction at a time, either north or south.(back or front)

The only place(s) which have one person looking views of immediately in front of the back patio door, front door and Madelienes window appear to be just across the road in block 6 on the balconys.  There are two balconies that have the view.  The one on the top floor and the one on the floor immediately below.


These balconies have several advantages, imo.   The most important one is that they see straight into 5A lounge.


The lounge is the hub of the flat. 

-  All the doors, inside and out, radiate from this lounge
-  If anyone is babysitting, then there is a very good chance the watcher will know.  He will likely be able to see them
-  The getaway vehicle can be parked immediately behind block 6, opposite the tapas reception.  It is less conspicuous there  and can be reached pretty privately via block 6 stairs and garden   (This is an assumption but it makes sense that all parts of these block 6 flats would have access to the rear garden garden and the sunny side)

I don't know of any other spots that have these additional advantages.

Does anyone else.?



PS.  I am not expecting any answers  8(0(*  (&^&

Offline The General

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #502 on: July 10, 2019, 10:28:17 PM »
No, I don't think so, unless two people were in these flats,   Just one direction at a time, either north or south.(back or front)

The only place(s) which have one person looking views of immediately in front of the back patio door, front door and Madelienes window appear to be just across the road in block 6 on the balconys.  There are two balconies that have the view.  The one on the top floor and the one on the floor immediately below.


These balconies have several advantages, imo.   The most important one is that they see straight into 5A lounge.


The lounge is the hub of the flat. 

-  All the doors, inside and out, radiate from this lounge
-  If anyone is babysitting, then there is a very good chance the watcher will know.  He will likely be able to see them
-  The getaway vehicle can be parked immediately behind block 6, opposite the tapas reception.  It is less conspicuous there  and can be reached pretty privately via block 6 stairs and garden   (This is an assumption but it makes sense that all parts of these block 6 flats would have access to the rear garden garden and the sunny side)

I don't know of any other spots that have these additional advantages.

Does anyone else.?



PS.  I am not expecting any answers  8(0(*  (&^&
Ooh, ooh, me, me....
How about this? So this 'watcher', are they there perchance; a frustrated, would-be abductor in waiting, or are they positioned strategically, on a very specific Observation Point?
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Offline sadie

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #503 on: July 10, 2019, 10:40:57 PM »
Ooh, ooh, me, me....
How about this? So this 'watcher', are they there perchance; a frustrated, would-be abductor in waiting, or are they positioned strategically, on a very specific Observation Point?

 &%%6   You have taken my post badly, haven't you?

Upsets you maybe that I could be right ?

There are a few places that have views, mistys is a good example.   I am just pointing out that the balconies are the only places that I am aware of that have the additional benefits given by being able to see right into the living room (central hub) of the flat. 


Imo, in answer to your question,  positioned strategically, on a very specific Observation Point.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #504 on: July 10, 2019, 10:43:36 PM »
Ooh, ooh, me, me....
How about this? So this 'watcher', are they there perchance; a frustrated, would-be abductor in waiting, or are they positioned strategically, on a very specific Observation Point?

I am not sure I followed all of Sadies Theorem. to cut it short-it does involve stealing MBM for her bloodline thingy and  this involves Jesus and jews and knights Templar- a well executed plan. sneekie b'strdds
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline The General

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #505 on: July 10, 2019, 10:49:37 PM »
&%%6   You have taken my post badly, haven't you?

Upsets you maybe that I could be right ?

There are a few places that have views, mistys is a good example.   I am just pointing out that the balconies are the only places that I am aware of that have the additional benefits given by being able to see right into the living room (central hub) of the flat. 


Imo, in answer to your question,  positioned strategically, on a very specific Observation Point.
I'm not upset in the least. I think your theory is absurd.
So this very specific observation point was chosen when? In advance?
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Offline The General

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #506 on: July 10, 2019, 10:53:09 PM »
I am not sure I followed all of Sadies Theorem. to cut it short-it does involve stealing MBM for her bloodline thingy and  this involves Jesus and jews and knights Templar- a well executed plan. sneekie b'strdds
There may be something in this.


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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #507 on: July 10, 2019, 10:54:51 PM »
I'm not upset in the least. I think your theory is absurd.
So this very specific observation point was chosen when? In advance?
I think Sadie reckons these people do this for a living.  They are experienced kidnappers who can sus  out the situation quickly.
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Offline sadie

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #508 on: July 10, 2019, 11:08:44 PM »
I'm not upset in the least. I think your theory is absurd.
So this very specific observation point was chosen when? In advance?

That's fine, 'tis only a theory ... and it has been chopped about a bit since it was originally posted.  TBH, I can't be bothered to check what has, likely, changed in the years since it was posted.

None of this is my main theory which has been passed to OG.  That's an altogether more comprehensive report and on completely different aspects of the case.  I shall not be sharing that.


Ya know 'Gen', I am only pointing things out; adding to the recognised facts    Take it or leave it.  The choice is yours.    8(>((

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Room With A View...
« Reply #509 on: July 10, 2019, 11:09:30 PM »
 
There may be something in this.

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