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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #465 on: December 08, 2019, 05:11:00 PM »
So if Amaral wasn't lying his information came from somewhere, and the UK police and the Portuguese police are possible sources as both would have access to it.
I asked the question of those sceptics who seem to doubt the veracity of the German paedo story.  Some people struggle to come to terms with the idea of either or both police forces concentrating on stranger abduction rather than the McCanns dunnit theory, insisting they are still suspects.  All the evidence (including Amaral’s recent pronouncements) rather suggest otherwise.  Do you agree or not?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #466 on: December 08, 2019, 05:13:51 PM »
I wonder why OG are investigating paedophiles? (If they are, of course). It's unlikely that such people stole Madeleine in order to hand her over to someone who meant her no harm, is it not?
In this post you seem to doubt that OG are investigating paedoes.  Does that mean you doubt Amaral’s recent pronouncement?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kmc

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #467 on: December 09, 2019, 10:46:18 AM »
In this post you seem to doubt that OG are investigating paedoes.  Does that mean you doubt Amaral’s recent pronouncement?

I was thinking further about the latest news and remembered the report in late 2017 of OG flying out to Athens to meet a German ex con who had served time in Chania, Greece for people trafficking.  (I thought at the time, if true, that it must have been an important lead to get OG a plane). It also seems from googling news at that time - that he would likely have served time when another German was arrested for his stash of extreme pedophilic material in Chania, Greece in 2015.

Anyhow, the Daily Beast, in their report, https://www.thedailybeast.com/madeleine-mccann-detectives-closing-in-on-new-lead-in-portugal-disappearance mentioned that they believed Ney had told another inmate something that only the kidnapper would have know. (I can’t imagine what that could be - perhaps something about undergarments, because it seems one of the only things we don’t know about Madeleine that night).   Anyhow, I was thinking perhaps it wasn’t Ney that the PJ leak were hinting at, but rather someone German in a Greek jail, which would better explain OG getting on a plane to meet the German ex con.  (The second lead in the article about someone recognising Ney in grainy footage from the Netflix documentary - doesn’t really make that much sense -  I personally don’t recall seeing any grainy footage from the night in question in that Doc).


Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #468 on: December 09, 2019, 11:56:30 AM »
I was thinking further about the latest news and remembered the report in late 2017 of OG flying out to Athens to meet a German ex con who had served time in Chania, Greece for people trafficking.  (I thought at the time, if true, that it must have been an important lead to get OG a plane). It also seems from googling news at that time - that he would likely have served time when another German was arrested for his stash of extreme pedophilic material in Chania, Greece in 2015.

Anyhow, the Daily Beast, in their report, https://www.thedailybeast.com/madeleine-mccann-detectives-closing-in-on-new-lead-in-portugal-disappearance mentioned that they believed Ney had told another inmate something that only the kidnapper would have know. (I can’t imagine what that could be - perhaps something about undergarments, because it seems one of the only things we don’t know about Madeleine that night).   Anyhow, I was thinking perhaps it wasn’t Ney that the PJ leak were hinting at, but rather someone German in a Greek jail, which would better explain OG getting on a plane to meet the German ex con.  (The second lead in the article about someone recognising Ney in grainy footage from the Netflix documentary - doesn’t really make that much sense -  I personally don’t recall seeing any grainy footage from the night in question in that Doc).


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Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #469 on: December 09, 2019, 12:11:16 PM »
From the beast article it seems OG aren't averse to commenting on an ongoing investigation,maybe its where Amaral solicited his Gerry look a like from.

Ney’s lawyer would not confirm to the The Daily Beast whether he has been questioned in the McCann affair, but Clarence Mitchell, the McCann family spokesman, told The Daily Beast that police had, in fact, talked to him. “It might be him and he fits the profile, he is a known predatory pedophile,” he said. “There is a degree of credibility it is Ney, but we cannot speculate.”
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Offline jassi

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #470 on: December 09, 2019, 12:14:06 PM »
From the beast article it seems OG aren't averse to commenting on an ongoing investigation,maybe its where Amaral solicited his Gerry look a like from.

Ney’s lawyer would not confirm to the The Daily Beast whether he has been questioned in the McCann affair, but Clarence Mitchell, the McCann family spokesman, told The Daily Beast that police had, in fact, talked to him. “It might be him and he fits the profile, he is a known predatory pedophile,” he said. “There is a degree of credibility it is Ney, but we cannot speculate.”


Ha Ha

What is " it might be him"  if not speculation ?
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #471 on: December 09, 2019, 12:17:40 PM »

Ha Ha

What is " it may be him"  if not speculation ?
I saw that....classic bull$£i7 from the Grandmaster Flash of bull$£i7. Roughly translated as 'this guy has nothing to do with this case whatsoever, but I'll neither confirm nor deny, but almost confirm, but not quite, to keep stoking the Paedo angle, coz that's mo job....WOOO!' [that's a Ravishing Rik Flair 'Woo' as well, for emphasis]
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #472 on: December 09, 2019, 05:34:20 PM »
I saw that....classic bull$£i7 from the Grandmaster Flash of bull$£i7. Roughly translated as 'this guy has nothing to do with this case whatsoever, but I'll neither confirm nor deny, but almost confirm, but not quite, to keep stoking the Paedo angle, coz that's mo job....WOOO!' [that's a Ravishing Rik Flair 'Woo' as well, for emphasis]
You think the McCanns pay Mitchell to “keep stoking the paedo angle”?  That’s pretty offensive.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #473 on: December 09, 2019, 06:18:02 PM »
You think the McCanns pay Mitchell to “keep stoking the paedo angle”?  That’s pretty offensive.

Don't waste your time, Love.  The General is here on a wind up, without even half a brain.

Offline jassi

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #474 on: December 09, 2019, 06:21:53 PM »
You think the McCanns pay Mitchell to “keep stoking the paedo angle”?  That’s pretty offensive.

Who is offended?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #475 on: December 09, 2019, 06:26:39 PM »
Who is offended?
Not you, nothing offends you, but ignorance, stupidity and blatant nastiness offends me, crazy I know. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #476 on: December 09, 2019, 06:31:03 PM »
Not you, nothing offends you, but ignorance, stupidity and blatant nastiness offends me, crazy I know.

I never understand why people get offended on behalf of others, particularly those they claim not to know.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #477 on: December 09, 2019, 06:45:46 PM »
I never understand why people get offended on behalf of others, particularly those they claim not to know.
I’m not offended on behalf of others.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #478 on: December 10, 2019, 03:14:31 PM »
Hi KMC, do you know anything about this person, Meissner aka Handfriedrich and his accomplice named Frankel? The attached is from the pj files.

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Offline kmc

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #479 on: December 10, 2019, 09:48:43 PM »
Hi KMC, do you know anything about this person, Meissner aka Handfriedrich and his accomplice named Frankel? The attached is from the pj files.

Hi Anthro, I have no idea about those two …or even if the one connected to Greece is someone OG is looking into. (He just happened to the only German pedophile who was briefly jailed at the same time/town as the other ex con, but there may be others that are not on the internet).  All I would say is that although similarish in height, the one arrested in Greece would have been 41 in 2007 with dark hair, so definitely doesn’t match Handfredrich’s description... and I don’t think there is a description of Frankel, so I don’t know if he is similar to him.