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Offline barrier

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1260 on: November 07, 2019, 08:49:29 PM »
How many people in Portugal or posters on this forum/other social media platforms would have considered still looking for Madeleine after the publication of Amaral's book & watching the documentary? Very often documentaries are the most influential in shaping opinions of the uninitiated.

I wonder if SY are looking for Madeleine,or looking to what happened to her,world of difference,
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline misty

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1261 on: November 07, 2019, 08:50:41 PM »
In a legal case, winning is what counts.

His perceived legal victory will never mitigate everything else he lost along the way. IMO.

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1262 on: November 07, 2019, 08:52:07 PM »
I wonder if SY are looking for Madeleine,or looking to what happened to her,world of difference,


I don't think they have ever looked for her - unless you count their digging of holes & dog deployment looking.
Even then its never been clear what they were looking for.

IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1263 on: November 07, 2019, 08:53:31 PM »
His perceived legal victory will never mitigate everything else he lost along the way. IMO.

There is nothing perceived about it, though you may be correct regarding the second part of your sentence.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1264 on: November 07, 2019, 08:55:07 PM »
I wonder if SY are looking for Madeleine,or looking to what happened to her,world of difference,

To find Madeleine SY needed to find out who removed her from the apartment & try to follow the trail. Rather like in drug trafficking cases, police leave the small fish alone whilst in pursuit of those higher up the metaphorical food chain.

Offline misty

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1265 on: November 07, 2019, 08:57:24 PM »
There is nothing perceived about it, though you may be correct regarding the second part of your sentence.

It is a perceived victory until the ECHR have their say. The only irremovable gain right now is monetary.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1266 on: November 07, 2019, 09:01:14 PM »
You never fail to disappoint.

Nor do the McCanns.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1267 on: November 07, 2019, 09:03:03 PM »
It is a perceived victory until the ECHR have their say. The only irremovable gain right now is monetary.

The ECHR verdict, if ever delivered, has nothing to do with Amaral.

As you should know, it is a case taken out against the State of Portugal.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline barrier

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1268 on: November 07, 2019, 09:03:17 PM »
To find Madeleine SY needed to find out who removed her from the apartment & try to follow the trail. Rather like in drug trafficking cases, police leave the small fish alone whilst in pursuit of those higher up the metaphorical food chain.

The first part is the most difficult with ne'er a suspect to be seen.

I'll refer you to jassi's post,what were they looking for and how did it advance the case,some 12 months later the team was drastically cut to just four.


I don't think they have ever looked for her - unless you count their digging of holes & dog deployment looking.
Even then its never been clear what they were looking for.

IMO
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Erngath

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1269 on: November 07, 2019, 09:03:42 PM »
Nor do the McCanns.

I did mean your posts, not you personally.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline misty

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1270 on: November 07, 2019, 09:13:22 PM »
The ECHR verdict, if ever delivered, has nothing to do with Amaral.

As you should know, it is a case taken out against the State of Portugal.

The ECHR verdict indirectly has everything to do with Amaral & the Portuguese justice system. Portugal has already lost 2 cases this year in ECHR involving their application of freedom of speech laws relating to defamation of judges. Those in positions of influence, as Amaral was, should not be given the green light to act with impunity IMO.

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1271 on: November 07, 2019, 09:18:35 PM »
The ECHR verdict indirectly has everything to do with Amaral & the Portuguese justice system. Portugal has already lost 2 cases this year in ECHR involving their application of freedom of speech laws relating to defamation of judges. Those in positions of influence, as Amaral was, should not be given the green light to act with impunity IMO.

So, at best, a precedent for future cases.
Nothing to do with Amaral, who may be looking towards  peaceful retirement in the sun.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline John

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1272 on: November 07, 2019, 09:21:40 PM »
Amaral's lawyers clearly thought that de Freitas would have been able to support Amaral's case. We don't know how, but we know that the UK authorities wouldn't allow him to give evidence.

One wonders why?  *%87

Interesting guidelines from West Yorkshire Police in respect of officers testifying in civil cases:

"In  cases  where  there  are,  or likely  to  be,  criminal  proceedings  a  request  for interview  should  be  refused until  the  conclusion  of  the  criminal proceedings."

Was Leicestershire Constabulary as was then known considering such proceedings?
« Last Edit: November 07, 2019, 09:45:10 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline G-Unit

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1273 on: November 07, 2019, 09:47:10 PM »
IMO there was nothing Defreitas could have said in his role as a serving UK police officer, without breaking the OSA, which would have supported Amaral's right to libel the McCanns.

If Amaral had libelled the McCanns they would have won their case.
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Offline John

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1274 on: November 07, 2019, 09:49:37 PM »
IMO there was nothing Defreitas could have said in his role as a serving UK police officer, without breaking the OSA, which would have supported Amaral's right to libel the McCanns.

Just curious misty, what has giving evidence about the Madeleine McCann case got to do with The Official Secrets Act?


ETA. I must declare an interest here in that I am bound by the Act.

« Last Edit: November 07, 2019, 09:53:14 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.