The mccanns have never claimed to have been declared innocent.

[Brietta]

In your opinion you are always right, so I see no point in continuing the discussion.

There was no evidence against any of the arguidos ~ McCann, McCann and Murat which is why none of them were charged with any offence and none of them were brought to trial for the simple reason there was no evidence to do so.

Madeleine's case was archived.  In the event of fresh evidence being found her case would be reopened and that is what happened in 2013 according to Portuguese law.

It is obvious to anyone who has followed Madeleine's case that the Judicial Police have been investigating abduction by a stranger.
The Judicial Police having said forcefully that Madeleine's parents are not suspects.

Therefore the Mcanns have never had the need to claim they have been declared innocent ... the situation has never arisen where anyone had the legal authority to arrive at any conclusion.  Which makes it rather extraordinary that there are those who have taken it upon themselves to be judge and jury when the current investigators quite obviously have their sights firmly set elsewhere.

[G-Unit]

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It is obvious to anyone who has followed Madeleine's case that the Judicial Police have been investigating abduction by a stranger.

Really?

[Brietta]

Really?

What do you think they are doing?

[G-Unit]

What do you think they are doing?

I don't know because they've never said. How do you know what they're doing?

[G-Unit]

There was no evidence against any of the arguidos ~ McCann, McCann and Murat which is why none of them were charged with any offence and none of them were brought to trial for the simple reason there was no evidence to do so.

I'm pleased to see that you agree with the Supreme Court that the investigators didn't gather sufficient proof that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance.

[barrier]

I don't know because they've never said. How do you know what they're doing?

Do Carmo said in 2017 we have to prepared for different scenario's.

[barrier]

The mccanns have never claimed to have been declared innocent

The papers were quick to run with "they have not been declared innocent" though.

[Mr Gray]

Do Carmo said in 2017 we have to prepared for different scenario's.

but a caveat.....parents not suspects and no evidence....so it could be argued he ruled out the parents

[Miss Taken Identity]

The papers were quick to run with "they have not been declared innocent" though.

Because they haven't been to court to have that bestowed on them. For all we know the PJ may still suspect them.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Because they haven't been to court to have that bestowed on them. For all we know the PJ may still suspect them.

For all we know the moon may be made out of cheese, and NASA have been lying to us all these years.

[Miss Taken Identity]

For all we know the moon may be made out of cheese, and NASA have been lying to us all these years.

Some would say NASA has lied all these years. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Some would say NASA has lied all these years. 

Yes, the same some who believe all sorts of nonsense.

[Brietta]

I don't know because they've never said. How do you know what they're doing?

I know they had to be following fresh evidence ... the law would not have allowed Madeleine's case to be reopened if there had been none in justification.

I know they investigated a former employee of the Ocean Club.
I know they have no interest in Kate ... I know they have no interest in Gerry ... I know they have no interest in their friends.  I know this because they have said so.  I believe they have no interest in Robert Murat either.

According to Amaral they recently had a German in their sights ... that one I can take or leave as I believe the man to be a liar as did the Portuguese courts;  I would have expected you to at least give a nod in his direction, but it seems you have missed that too.

[Brietta]

I'm pleased to see that you agree with the Supreme Court that the investigators didn't gather sufficient proof that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance.

What I actually said was ...
"There was no evidence against any of the arguidos ~ McCann, McCann and Murat which is why none of them were charged with any offence and none of them were brought to trial for the simple reason there was no evidence to do so.

Madeleine's case was archived.  In the event of fresh evidence being found her case would be reopened and that is what happened in 2013 according to Portuguese law.

It is obvious to anyone who has followed Madeleine's case that the Judicial Police have been investigating abduction by a stranger.
The Judicial Police having said forcefully that Madeleine's parents are not suspects.

Therefore the Mcanns have never had the need to claim they have been declared innocent ... the situation has never arisen where anyone had the legal authority to arrive at any conclusion.  Which makes it rather extraordinary that there are those who have taken it upon themselves to be judge and jury when the current investigators quite obviously have their sights firmly set elsewhere."
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Please desist from this recently readopted habit you have of truncating my posts when you are replying to them (I have complained to you of such interference on a previous occasion) ; in that way you will get the meaning of them as is and not your interpretation of whatyou think it should be.

[G-Unit]

I know they had to be following fresh evidence ... the law would not have allowed Madeleine's case to be reopened if there had been none in justification.

I know they investigated a former employee of the Ocean Club.
I know they have no interest in Kate ... I know they have no interest in Gerry ... I know they have no interest in their friends.  I know this because they have said so.  I believe they have no interest in Robert Murat either.

According to Amaral they recently had a German in their sights ... that one I can take or leave as I believe the man to be a liar as did the Portuguese courts;  I would have expected you to at least give a nod in his direction, but it seems you have missed that too.

It is a fact that the investigation was reopened, but the reasons weren't made public.

According to the media the Portuguese police spoke to the widow of a former employee of the Ocean Club, but whether that was due to a request from Op Grange or whether it was something the Portuguese police instigated isn't known.

Pedro do Carmo said the McCanns weren't suspects in 2017, which means that they weren't suspects. Whether he meant they weren't suspected or that they weren't formal suspects isn't known.

I thought Amaral told Mark Saunokonoko that Op Grange were interested in a German?