Is there any evidence which implicates Sheila?

[Caroline]

And why does Holly keep calling Jeremy Bamber,, Perp?

Is it a pet name for him?😌

It's a term used in trendy crime dramas like Criminal Minds - it's short for perpetrator.

[Holly Goodhead]

Not this again

What reasons do you have for thinking a shooting reconstruction isn't going to take place?

[Holly Goodhead]

Where does it mention the carpet outside of Sheil's room?

We've covered this previously.

Two small blood stains presented on the landing carpet were compatible with NB's blood groups.  Soc officers referred to these exhibits as DRH/49 (near SC's bedroom door) and DRH/47.  Dr Lincoln has referred to them as tufts.  DC Hammersly refers to them as tight piled carpet.

[The General]

They’re forensic scientists — you and I aren’t

They know by the quantity if the hairs been washed or not

Just like they knew Sheila wasn’t the mudererer , she had no gun residue on her body or cloted

I'm not having this 'microscopic particles' crap. For example Sheila could have brushed up against something in the environs of the cottage and had many millions of special particles (which seem to be oddly non-specific) transferred to her hair. Where's the rigour in this odd analysis? What's the baseline number of particles per square centimetre that is regarded as 'normal'? Where's the comparison with a control sample of 'washed hair'?
It's poor scientific analysis at best.
If it was stated that her hair 'appeared to have gone unwashed, due to it's appearance', I'd be inclined to go with that as an opinion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Can we get back to discussing all the evidence that points to Sheila’s guilt, not her innocence, thanks.

[APRIL]

I'm not having this 'microscopic particles' crap. For example Sheila could have brushed up against something in the environs of the cottage and had many millions of special particles (which seem to be oddly non-specific) transferred to her hair. Where's the rigour in this odd analysis? What's the baseline number of particles per square centimetre that is regarded as 'normal'? Where's the comparison with a control sample of 'washed hair'?
It's poor scientific analysis at best.
If it was stated that her hair 'appeared to have gone unwashed, due to it's appearance', I'd be inclined to go with that as an opinion.

Like a strand of over-bleached hair, this has become overstretched to breaking point.

[The General]

Can we get back to discussing all the evidence that points to Sheila’s guilt, not her innocence, thanks.

That's a bit difficult. Although, that's what we're doing - this hair washing aspect forms part of the apparent weight of evidence in her favour.

I'm at a disadvantage, as I know sweet Fanny Adams about the case comparatively. I'm reading Carol Ann Lee's book at the minute, as it's labelled 'the definitive investigation'.

[Myster]

You won't find Vanezis examining particles through his microscope in there... or anywhere else for that matter.

Just another figment of someone's vivid imagination.

[APRIL]

You won't find Vanezis examining particles through his microscope in there... or anywhere else for that matter.

Just another figment of someone's vivid imagination.

Culminating from whether or not she'd shampoo'd her hair during an alleged cleansing ritual!!!

[Vertigo Swirl]

As I understand it all the victims were shot at short range, so it’s reasonable to assume the assailant would have had at least one of the victims blood on their own body especially if they were engaged in a struggle with a bleeding victim.  Whose blood apart from her own did Sheila have on her body, hair, clothes, etc?

[Caroline]

What reasons do you have for thinking a shooting reconstruction isn't going to take place?

I have already told you.

[Caroline]

As I understand it all the victims were shot at short range, so it’s reasonable to assume the assailant would have had at least one of the victims blood on their own body especially if they were engaged in a struggle with a bleeding victim.  Whose blood apart from her own did Sheila have on her body, hair, clothes, etc?

Of course they would! There was no one else's blood detected on Sheila.

[Holly Goodhead]

Of course they would! There was no one else's blood detected on Sheila.

Whose blood would you expect to see on SC and by what means do you think it deposited on her nightdress/person? 

Please bear in mind that it was not possible back in 85/86 to even group microscopic blood stains.  Had the nightdress not been destroyed by Essex police against all protocols it would have been possible to subject it to DNA testing.

[Caroline]

We've covered this previously.

Two small blood stains presented on the landing carpet were compatible with NB's blood groups.  Soc officers referred to these exhibits as DRH/49 (near SC's bedroom door) and DRH/47.  Dr Lincoln has referred to them as tufts.  DC Hammersly refers to them as tight piled carpet.

Previously you said they were identified as June's blood?

"The small blood stain on the carpet outside SC's bedroom revealed enzyme AK-1 which only June possessed."




 ABO     PGM.             EAP.           AK.     HP

Nevill Bamber       O     PGM1+         EAP BA     AK1     Hp2-1

[Holly Goodhead]

Previously you said they were identified as June's blood?

"The small blood stain on the carpet outside SC's bedroom revealed enzyme AK-1 which only June possessed."




 ABO     PGM.             EAP.           AK.     HP

Nevill Bamber       O     PGM1+         EAP BA     AK1     Hp2-1

The two small blood stains on the landing carpet revealed AK2-1 which from the victims only June possessed.