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Re: What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?
« Reply #337 on: June 12, 2020, 11:03:28 AM »
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Quote from: Ispywithmybigeye on June 12, 2020, 09:32:36 AM
April,
We all know Nevill (nor anyone else) phoned Jeremy between 3 to 3:25am that morning.
Besides Nevill already being dead, and when he was alive in the kitchen he was unable to speak, and despite the ridiculous idea of JB’s supporters that Nevill would’ve called him of all people in a dire emergency is sheer lunacy. In a dire emergency all thoughts of “what will the vicar say” don’t enter your mind: your wife has been shot dead or critically injured, your daughter is going berserk with a loaded rifle; you’ve been shot four times in the mouth, neck, shoulder...the ONLY people you NEED and want are paramedics and police. It’s not like it can all be hushed up. So all that nonsense they spout isn’t even worth responding to.
Everything you have written above is opinion. You don't know that Nevill was unable to speak, you don't know what he was thinking and you don't know that his wife had already been shot. Therefore your arguments are not sustainable.
Whatever...HAD Nevill called Jeremy, and according to Jeremy he was upstairs in bed sleeping like a log, by the TIME he’d have heard the phone ringing downstairs it would have had to of rung a MINIMUM of 4/5 times to rouse him. Even when your phone next to you in bed rings when you’re asleep, it takes a good few rings to wake you. Always.
For all we know, his phone may not have even been that loud, which further reduces the chances of it waking him upstairs while he was supposedly in a deep sleep, exhausted after a long day’s work.
But let’s assume he had miraculous hearing and heard that downstairs phone ringing, by the time he roused, got up, stumbled downstairs all confused and concerned, his answer machine would have collected that call before he had chance to answer it.
Everything you have written above is opinion. You don't know that Nevill was unable to speak, you don't know what he was thinking and you don't know that his wife had already been shot. Therefore your arguments are not sustainable. ?
We had a high tech answer machine back in the 1980s and like all the other machines we looked at, they all had the same facility whereby it rang a certain amount of rings before automatically answering the call. I can’t say for certain as it was so long ago, but I seem to recall we had a choice of six rings, eight , or 10 max. All machines were the same. They were set to answer no longer than 10 rings to avoid missing calls.
That means, Jeremy could NOT have reached that phone before the answerphone kicked in. He could not have been roused from his sleep (say, 4/5 rings), sat up in bed, got up, walked out the bedroom, walked downstairs and picked it up. He couldn’t have. The AM would’ve already kicked in.
Only if there was an answerphone.
So why didn’t Nevill leave a message?
And if Jeremy cut in and interrupted the answer machine (which you could do) it would have still been recording; it would have recorded his conversation with Nevill.
So the fact there was never any recording on the answer machine is also proof that Nevill, or anyone else, rang him.
The only call made to Goldhanger was by Jeremy himself who called his home number after murdering everyone, let it ring a few times before the answer machine kicked in, and then he cut the call off leaving his line at Goldhanger free. He left the phone off the hook at WHF deliberately, to “show” the police he couldn’t get back to Nevill after he pretended to phone him back.”
The highlighter on here won’t seem to work for me, but my answers to YOUR replies es, Gunit, are:
“ Everything you have written above is opinion. You don't know that Nevill was unable to speak, you don't know what he was thinking and you don't know that his wife had already been shot. Therefore your arguments are not sustainable. ”
None of what I’ve written is opinion — it’s FACT.
FORENSICS PROVED that Nevill was first shot upstairs, meaning he was unable to SPEAK once he got down to the kitchen.
Are you refuting that? Are you saying those pathologists, ballistics and forensics were all wrong!
“Did Jeremy have an answerphone “
Yes, he did. Read the case.
“Everything you have written above is opinion. You don't know that Nevill was unable to speak, you don't know what he was thinking and you don't know that his wife had already been shot. Therefore your arguments are not sustainable”
Again, Gunit. None of what I’ve said is opinion. It’s FACT.
Nevill could NOT speak when he got down to the kitchen, but you’d know better than a professor of pathology, yes?
It’s also FACT that when Jeremy went into the master bedroom both Nevill and June were in bed.
It’s also fact Jeremy shot June when she was still IN bed. Are you suggesting Nevill didn’t NOTICE that?!
I’ve no idea how you brain is wired up but if you can’t work out the simplest of facts when they’ve been handed to you on a plate by experts, you ought to take up some kind of hobby that requires less thought process.
