Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?

[Wonderfulspam]

It's been explained

Wolters can explain everything. Just have faith in him & he will lead us to the promised land.

[barrier]

It's been explained

You show where then ?

[Mr Gray]

Some people stay in ignorance...others continue to learn. I've learnt and understood an enormous amount during the last 15 yes re this case
I think John's motive for starting this thread was to knock SY.
The reason sceptic posters can't accept anything that shows the parents innocence is they cannot let go of the cadaver dog alerts . What I see is that the misplaced faith the PJ put in Grime and his dogs took the investigation into the wrong direction.
Lenny Harper was heavily criticised for doing the same in Jersey.
In Jersey the investigation collected and counted teeth where the dog alerted. In his white paper some 12 years later Grime says the dog will not react to teeth..

What a contradiction..with many sceptics claiming teeth are human remains.

[barrier]

Some people stay in ignorance...others continue to learn. I've learnt and understood an enormous amount during the last 15 yes re this case
I think John's motive for starting this thread was to knock SY.
The reason sceptic posters can't accept anything that shows the parents innocence is they cannot let go of the cadaver dog alerts . What I see is that the misplaced faith the PJ put in Grime and his dogs took the investigation into the wrong direction.
Lenny Harper was heavily criticised for doing the same in Jersey.
In Jersey the investigation collected and counted teeth where the dog alerted. In his white paper some 12 years later Grime says the dog will not react to teeth..

What a contradiction..with many sceptics claiming teeth are human remains.

We've learnt you had no understanding of how the ECHR work,

[G-Unit]

            Yes.

Found it! Correio da Manhã condemned to pay €15,000 in damages.
https://www.portugalresident.com/maddie-case-victim-robert-murat-wins-damages-for-being-labelled-pedophile-on-live-tv/

Although it took years, the Portuguese courts delivered for Murat then.

[Wonderfulspam]

Some people stay in ignorance...others continue to learn. I've learnt and understood an enormous amount during the last 15 yes re this case
I think John's motive for starting this thread was to knock SY.
The reason sceptic posters can't accept anything that shows the parents innocence is they cannot let go of the cadaver dog alerts . What I see is that the misplaced faith the PJ put in Grime and his dogs took the investigation into the wrong direction.
Lenny Harper was heavily criticised for doing the same in Jersey.
In Jersey the investigation collected and counted teeth where the dog alerted. In his white paper some 12 years later Grime says the dog will not react to teeth..

What a contradiction..with many sceptics claiming teeth are human remains.

What is there that shows the McCanns innocence?

[Wonderfulspam]

You show where then ?

Redwood said 'not suspects' & mumbled about criminal acts by strangers.

Wolters says he has concrete evidence.

You just have to believe them is all.

[Mr Gray]

We've learnt you had no understanding of how the ECHR work,

I've more understanding than anyone here..my explanations simply go right over your head. I said from day 1, 2017 that the claim would be presumption of innocence and right to reputation..spot on.
You will be criticised for taking the thread off topic LOL..
Even Isabelle McFadden congratulated me when I took on 6 sceptics in a live debate on twitter space. ,..you can try and knock me if you want but all you do is show your lack of knowledge

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yep, the girl disappeared in as yet unexplained circumstances.

Things we know now that we didn't know then - a dangerous rapist, burglar and child abuser lived in close proximity to PdL and his phone was used in PdL that night.  That gives us a suspect with means, motive and very likely opportunity.  What we haven't learned yet is what evidence (if any) the German police have that points more firmly at this man, but we do know that they are convinced he committed the crime.  We also know that he is the only official suspect (arguido) in this case.  Neither the Portuguese police nor the Met have come out and stated that the Germans are wrong and are pursuing other leads.
We will just have to wait and see.  In the meantime we know for a fact that the parents are not official suspects. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Things we know now that we didn't know then - a dangerous rapist, burglar and child abuser lived in close proximity to PdL and his phone was used in PdL that night.  That gives us a suspect with means, motive and very likely opportunity.  What we haven't learned yet is what evidence (if any) the German police have that points more firmly at this man, but we do know that they are convinced he committed the crime.  We also know that he is the only official suspect (arguido) in this case.  Neither the Portuguese police nor the Met have come out and stated that the Germans are wrong and are pursuing other leads.
We will just have to wait and see.  In the meantime we know for a fact that the parents are not official suspects.

Didn't SY have no jurisdiction to investigate the McCanns anyway?

And good luck waiting for Brueckner to be charged. It shouldn't be much longer now.

[Eleanor]

Things we know now that we didn't know then - a dangerous rapist, burglar and child abuser lived in close proximity to PdL and his phone was used in PdL that night.  That gives us a suspect with means, motive and very likely opportunity.  What we haven't learned yet is what evidence (if any) the German police have that points more firmly at this man, but we do know that they are convinced he committed the crime.  We also know that he is the only official suspect (arguido) in this case.  Neither the Portuguese police nor the Met have come out and stated that the Germans are wrong and are pursuing other leads.
We will just have to wait and see.  In the meantime we know for a fact that the parents are not official suspects.

This Thread has turned out to be better than I first thought.  All of us have learned a thing or two.  Albeit just something that we might have missed.  But The Jonny Come Latelys don't want to know.

Never mind.  It isn't that important.  While Sceptics continue to prove their ignorance.

[Wonderfulspam]

This Thread has turned out to be better than I first thought.  All of us have learned a thing or two.  Albeit just something that we might have missed.  But The Jonny Come Latelys don't want to know.

Never mind.  It isn't that important.  While Sceptics continue to prove their ignorance.

Maybe you can tell me then, because I didn't get an answer from davel.

What is there that shows the McCanns innocence?

[Wonderfulspam]

Wolters has been investigating Brueckner for nearly six years, announced him as prime suspect almost three years ago. Still no charges in sight though. The evidence against him must be very conclusive, perhaps Wolters just needs a bit more time to strengthen his case. Yes, that must be it. Just be patient everyone. Let's all just wait & see. Best we give him another six years before we write him off completely.

[Mr Gray]

You show where then ?

I'm happy to..but need to check how well you understand evidence first ..so based on the premise of beyond reasonable doubt..do you accept CB is guilty of the rape of DM..which he was found guilty of

[Brietta]

Found it! Correio da Manhã condemned to pay €15,000 in damages.
https://www.portugalresident.com/maddie-case-victim-robert-murat-wins-damages-for-being-labelled-pedophile-on-live-tv/

Although it took years, the Portuguese courts delivered for Murat then.

Great!  So your Google thingy does work after all 🦉  Did you learn anything about 'Diário de Notícias' while you were about it?