Anything and everything

[Danamithar]

That does beg the question why was such security deemed necessary?

Exactly......Special Branch !!!!  >@@(*&)

[jassi]

Did he also  have a security escort on the plane, or just to & from the airports?

[Danamithar]

ben needhams mother kerry met by special branch.......Googled that...erm nope, nadda  >@@(*&)

[jassi]

There was something definitely special about the McCanns

[Danamithar]

As this thread is anything and everything, so its not off topic.....Can someone remind me of the books Gerry had for bedtime reading ?

[jassi]

Grimm's Fairytale.   

[AnneGuedes]

Remember that many VIP believed and supported them, to say nothing of those who sent donations to the fund. All of a sudden those innocent victims were questioned by a foreign police !
All this made them special.

[gilet]

UK posters now detain the power to determine that a portuguese citizen is guilty of a crime;
Every silly nutthead must abide to their decision;

The same subjects decided that some special british citizens were innocent;

Those same subects accept that the crime of making a 3 year old disappear was the art of a mysterious abductor (foreigner, in preference) with many faces, many bodies and in many places;

 Those same subjects have no problem in accusing innocent people in order to bring up the poor, unfortunate, careless and guilty McCann parents, as offended.

I don't mean to insult the British people, on the contrary, but like in Portugal, in the islands there are some stinky friends.

It was not British citizens who declared Goncalo da Sousa Amaral a criminal.

That was the action of a Portuguese court.

That action was later confirmed by an appeal court.

Your idiotic attempt to claim that it is the British who are making out that this disgraced ex-copper is a criminal is madness.

When you take your head out of the sand and accept that the chap who got booted off the McCann case because he could not keep his mouth shut actually is a criminal who either by incompetence (by not knowing what he was signing) or by deliberate action tried to cover up a vile abusive crime then maybe you can be taken seriously.

Till you accept what the Portuguese Courts have stated about this man your posts look totally ridiculous.

[AnneGuedes]

I think DC Redwood's words are plenty of proof.

This sentence deserves to remain in this forum's anthology.

[AnneGuedes]

The person who took Madeleine is to blame.  What about those molestations Kate mentions in her book?  The ones where children were molested and their parents WERE in the apartment. 

As there's no evidence of those facts, it's difficult to follow your thinking process.

[Benice]

As there's no evidence of those facts, it's difficult to follow your thinking process.

There is evidence, you just dont want to accept it and instead prefer to believe that Kate McCAnn publically lied in her book about the British Consul, the GNR and the Leicestershire police - not to mention the families who came forward to relate their experiences of sexual predators entering their apartments and abusing their childen - who you apparently prefer to think are all a figment of Kate's imagination.   

From Kate's book. - regarding information from the files.
 
 Quote
In the meantime I set to work on the files................................................I spent hours scanning through.........................................  Then I began on the few sections that were in English, primarily statements from British witnesses of information forwarded to the PJ  BY THE LEICESTESHIRE POLICE...
 
One of the most concerning and upsetting pieces of information to emerge quite early was the record of sexual crimes against children in the Algarve...........  I read of five cases of British children on holiday being sexually abused in their beds whille their parents slept in   another room      In three further incidents children encountered an intruder in their bedrooms who was presumably  disturbed before he had the chance to carry out an assault.   
 
I guess these were the reports  Bill Henderson, the British consul at the time of Madeleins abducton had told me about.   
 
These incidents had occurred within an hour's drive of Pdl over the three years prior to Madeleine's disappearance .  The PJ had never mentioned any of them to us.   In fact I gathered FROM THE FILES some of them hadn't even been recorded by the authorities at the time they were reported (evidently they were not considered to be actual crimes)   So they might never have been brought to light if the parents of these children hadn't been brave enough to come forward to the British Police after Madelieine was taken and relive their nightmares.    They did so in the belief that there could be a link between what had happened to their children and what happened to her.      It broke my heart to READ the terrible accounts of these devastated parents.........................................................
End quote

If you really think the above is just a a pack of lies and that Kate didn't mind that in telling them she was letting the Leicestershire Police, the British Consul and the GNR know what a liar she was - maybe you could explain why she would take such a 'suicidal' decision and decide to reveal herself as a massive liar to those quite important people?


 
   

[AnneGuedes]

There is evidence, you just dont want to accept it and instead prefer to believe that Kate McCAnn publically lied in her book about the British Consul, the GNR and the Leicestershire police - not to mention the families who came forward to relate their experiences of sexual predators entering their apartments and abusing their childen - who you apparently prefer to think are all a figment of Kate's imagination.   

I'm not saying she's lying but that Mrs McCann tells what she wants  (no source is given, this is not serious) and people believe her story telling if they want. You can't suppose that the diplomatic, GNR and PJ authorities have read "Madeleine" ! And if one did by chance, would s/he have time to loose inquiring and proving that Mrs McCann tells or not what suits her agenda ?
The myth is : British (how extraordinary ! not German, not Dutch...) kids were sexually abused  IN BED by a perpetrator who introduced himself how ? Big mystery ! As it is a big mystery why the parents didn't contact the PJ.
Instead of spreading this myth, Benice, why don't you write to Mrs McCann asking for some evidence ?

[Carana]

I'm not saying she's lying but that Mrs McCann tells what she wants  (no source is given, this is not serious) and people believe her story telling if they want. You can't suppose that the diplomatic, GNR and PJ authorities have read "Madeleine" ! And if one did by chance, would s/he have time to loose inquiring and proving that Mrs McCann tells or not what suits her agenda ?
The myth is : British (how extraordinary ! not German, not Dutch...) kids were sexually abused  IN BED by a perpetrator who introduced himself how ? Big mystery ! As it is a big mystery why the parents didn't contact the PJ.
Instead of spreading this myth, Benice, why don't you write to Mrs McCann asking for some evidence ?

If German or Dutch citizens had reported any similar instances to their own police, LP may not have had a copy.

If any non-British nationals had reported any such incidents in the area whilst there, the local police force to contact would have been the GNR in a rural area, wouldn't it? And that it would be the GNR's responsibility to pass on suspicions of serious crimes beyond their mandate to the PJ?

[Benita]

There is evidence, you just dont want to accept it and instead prefer to believe that Kate McCAnn publically lied in her book about the British Consul, the GNR and the Leicestershire police - not to mention the families who came forward to relate their experiences of sexual predators entering their apartments and abusing their childen - who you apparently prefer to think are all a figment of Kate's imagination.   

From Kate's book. - regarding information from the files.
 
 Quote
In the meantime I set to work on the files................................................I spent hours scanning through.........................................  Then I began on the few sections that were in English, primarily statements from British witnesses of information forwarded to the PJ  BY THE LEICESTESHIRE POLICE...
 
One of the most concerning and upsetting pieces of information to emerge quite early was the record of sexual crimes against children in the Algarve...........  I read of five cases of British children on holiday being sexually abused in their beds whille their parents slept in   another room      In three further incidents children encountered an intruder in their bedrooms who was presumably  disturbed before he had the chance to carry out an assault.   
 
I guess these were the reports  Bill Henderson, the British consul at the time of Madeleins abducton had told me about.   
 
These incidents had occurred within an hour's drive of Pdl over the three years prior to Madeleine's disappearance .  The PJ had never mentioned any of them to us.   In fact I gathered FROM THE FILES some of them hadn't even been recorded by the authorities at the time they were reported (evidently they were not considered to be actual crimes)   So they might never have been brought to light if the parents of these children hadn't been brave enough to come forward to the British Police after Madelieine was taken and relive their nightmares.    They did so in the belief that there could be a link between what had happened to their children and what happened to her.      It broke my heart to READ the terrible accounts of these devastated parents.........................................................
End quote

If you really think the above is just a a pack of lies and that Kate didn't mind that in telling them she was letting the Leicestershire Police, the British Consul and the GNR know what a liar she was - maybe you could explain why she would take such a 'suicidal' decision and decide to reveal herself as a massive liar to those quite important people?


 
   

 

[sadie]

There is evidence, you just dont want to accept it and instead prefer to believe that Kate McCAnn publically lied in her book about the British Consul, the GNR and the Leicestershire police - not to mention the families who came forward to relate their experiences of sexual predators entering their apartments and abusing their childen - who you apparently prefer to think are all a figment of Kate's imagination.   

From Kate's book. - regarding information from the files.
 
 Quote
In the meantime I set to work on the files................................................I spent hours scanning through.........................................  Then I began on the few sections that were in English, primarily statements from British witnesses of information forwarded to the PJ  BY THE LEICESTESHIRE POLICE...
 
One of the most concerning and upsetting pieces of information to emerge quite early was the record of sexual crimes against children in the Algarve...........  I read of five cases of British children on holiday being sexually abused in their beds whille their parents slept in   another room      In three further incidents children encountered an intruder in their bedrooms who was presumably  disturbed before he had the chance to carry out an assault.   
 
I guess these were the reports  Bill Henderson, the British consul at the time of Madeleins abducton had told me about.   
 
These incidents had occurred within an hour's drive of Pdl over the three years prior to Madeleine's disappearance .  The PJ had never mentioned any of them to us.   In fact I gathered FROM THE FILES some of them hadn't even been recorded by the authorities at the time they were reported (evidently they were not considered to be actual crimes)   So they might never have been brought to light if the parents of these children hadn't been brave enough to come forward to the British Police after Madelieine was taken and relive their nightmares.    They did so in the belief that there could be a link between what had happened to their children and what happened to her.      It broke my heart to READ the terrible accounts of these devastated parents.........................................................
End quote

If you really think the above is just a a pack of lies and that Kate didn't mind that in telling them she was letting the Leicestershire Police, the British Consul and the GNR know what a liar she was - maybe you could explain why she would take such a 'suicidal' decision and decide to reveal herself as a massive liar to those quite important people?

   

Me too.   

Cracking post Benice.  Well done.