Eddie and Keela and what the alerts meant if anything.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Who said it was a sports bag?   What if Eddie had been sniffing where the dirty washing would have been kept?  Not only by the McCann's but by the other families who stayed in 5a after the McCann's.

Do you mean he was then alerting to previous presence of cadaver odour on clothes? I wonder what the contact time has to be allow for cross contamination?

[faithlilly]

Fed up by then.

You really don’t understand dogs, do you ?

[ShiningInLuz]

There's a lot of assuming going on.  Eddie nearly galloped down the path to 5a, before he got anywhere near the front door, and I very much doubt any cadaver odour would travel that far.  I think Eddie knew he was going for his fun game.

I think you have hit one nail on the head, though I'm not sure you fully understand why.

I haven't seen 'supporters' raise this point before.

Try role-playing Eddie.

[Mr Gray]

Yet no alerts in any property associated with the rest of the tapas group or Murat. Why not ?

I've explained why... Have you missed it

[faithlilly]

I've explained why... Have you missed it

You may have explained to your own satisfaction but unfortunately not to anyone else’s.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

How come?  Why not potentially a shorter period?

Because in tests with cadaver dogs we know that although cadaveric VOCs might start to be produced four minutes after death it takes 85 minutes before a trained and specialised dog can successfully detect the odour with a very high degree of accuracy. Therefore a corpse would have had to have been in the apartment for 85 minutes or more for there to be enough odour for Eddie to alert as he did

[Lace]

Do you mean he was then alerting to previous presence of cadaver odour on clothes? I wonder what the contact time has to be allow for cross contamination?

No he could have been sniffing the scent of blood that had been on dirty washing,  either McCann's or one of the other families.

[ShiningInLuz]

Explain why I'm wrong... Cadaver scent does take time to develop.. If Maddie was, removed there would be no cadaver odour... That makes the time frame around an hour minimum

Explain why Gerry McCann is not dead.

Both dogs alerted.

[Angelo222]

Yet no alerts in any property associated with the rest of the tapas group or Murat. Why not ?

That is one aspect which always bothered me. Eddie certainly found an odour in 5a which he was familiar with and trained to alert to. I still strongly believe that it had no relevance to Maddie though.

[Angelo222]

Explain why I'm wrong... Cadaver scent does take time to develop.. If Maddie was, removed there would be no cadaver odour... That makes the time frame around an hour minimum

I agree.

[Lace]

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You really don’t understand dogs, do you ?
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I understand that Eddie ran out of the bedroom in 5a,  had to be called back.   Would that had happened if it hadn't been the McCann's apartment?

Eddie ran around the other apartments and wasn't called back.

[Eleanor]

I think you have hit one nail on the head, though I'm not sure you fully understand why.

I haven't seen 'supporters' raise this point before.

Try role-playing Eddie.

My beliefs are based on Logic and Logistics.  I have forgotten more than I remember, until someone raises an obscure detail, most of which aren't relevant anyway.

[Eleanor]

You may have explained to your own satisfaction but unfortunately not to anyone else’s.

I think you mean, "Not to everyone else's."

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I've explained why... Have you missed it

Your explanation didn’t satisfy me as a lay observer.

[ShiningInLuz]

My beliefs are based on Logic and Logistics.  I have forgotten more than I remember, until someone raises an obscure detail, most of which aren't relevant anyway.

Then I will let sleeping dogs lie.