Toddler died hours after slipping on marble floor in her family's apartment

[stephen25000]

it would ahve to be quite a severe fall which would not go unnoticed...lots of tears etc...symptoms would become obvious.

Have a read.

http://patient.info/health/subdural-haematoma-leaflet

[Mr Gray]

Have a read.

http://patient.info/health/subdural-haematoma-leaflet

i don't need to read it... i know it all already

[G-Unit]

I still can't get my head around the fact that some think that the McCann's if they found Madeleine dead behind the sofa,  would instead of giving her a decent burial,  would hide her body!!   

If Kate found Madeleine,   what are the odds of her bungling Madeleine into a cupboard and not running off to say she had found Madeleine dead?

If she was found dead,   why invent an abduction?    it would have been much easier to have said she died during the night.     Or even if they did decide on hiding her for some bizarre reason that I really can't think of,   then telling no one and just hiding her that night,   then saying she had been abducted during the night,  either by opening a window or saying they forgot to lock the patio doors,  that would have been a better idea as then they wouldn't be blamed for leaving her alone.

After all they knew of this wonderful place where she would never be discovered.

Unfortunately there are people who do all kinds of things for all sorts of reasons. Just because you can't get your head around something doesn't make it impossible.

[Lace]

maddie  was heard  crying for  75 minutes by mrs fenn

Be very careful when you say Mrs Fenn heard Madeleine as she says nothing of the sort,  she said she heard a child crying.    I believe what she heard was Amelie,   followed by Sean then Madeleine called Daddy.

[Mr Gray]

Unfortunately there are people who do all kinds of things for all sorts of reasons. Just because you can't get your head around something doesn't make it impossible.

just because you cannot "get your head round " the abduction that almost certainly happened

[Lace]

Unfortunately there are people who do all kinds of things for all sorts of reasons. Just because you can't get your head around something doesn't make it impossible.

Well it certainly wasn't because they sedated her,  as calpol is not a sedative,  also they would have known that Madeleine could have been found and it would have been worse for them if she was.    Who jeopardises their whole life like that?

[stephen25000]

just because you cannot "get your head round " the abduction that almost certainly happened

You are not going to convince anyone with the 'davel is the only person who gets it right' attitude.

There is no more evidence for 'abduction' than for anything else.

Your backing of mccanns is the reason for that choice of scenario, and your posting tonight merely reinforces that impression.

[misty]

If Madeleine had been found unconscious/dead in the apartment that night, as a result of an accident, and the McCanns had rushed her to hospital in a taxi, how diligently do you think the PJ would have investigated the circumstances surrounding her death? Would there even have been an investigation if they just said, e.g. that she fell off the bed & banged her head?
 Would the parents have even been forced to disclose they were dining out and left the children unattended for short periods of time?

[G-Unit]

Be very careful when you say Mrs Fenn heard Madeleine as she says nothing of the sort,  she said she heard a child crying.    I believe what she heard was Amelie,   followed by Sean then Madeleine called Daddy.

Why should people be careful? I have seen police officer statements misquoted and complete fabrications quoted as facts. That'll be the day when everyone sticks to the facts.

Here are the facts;Mrs Fenn said it was not a younger child and it was a girl. she seemed to think it was the same child all through, so it was unlikely to be all three taking turns;

and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger. Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted ?Daddy, Daddy?,............she never told the McCann's that she had heard their daughter crying previously on 1st May because she thought it would just increase their suffering.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

[stephen25000]

If Madeleine had been found unconscious/dead in the apartment that night, as a result of an accident, and the McCanns had rushed her to hospital in a taxi, how diligently do you think the PJ would have investigated the circumstances surrounding her death? Would there even have been an investigation if they just said, e.g. that she fell off the bed & banged her head?
 Would the parents have even been forced to disclose they were dining out and left the children unattended for short periods of time?

OF COURSE THE ACCIDENT WOULD HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED.

and it wasn't short periods of time they were left alone.

[carlymichelle]

OF COURSE THE ACCIDENT WOULD HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED.

and it wasn't short periods of time they were left alone.

all childrens deaths are investigated  are they not accidental or not  even  SIDS  babies  parents  are  investigated  here

[misty]

OF COURSE THE ACCIDENT WOULD HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATED.

and it wasn't short periods of time they were left alone.

Go back to the opening post before shouting at me. Then present a more informed response

[G-Unit]

Well it certainly wasn't because they sedated her,  as calpol is not a sedative,  also they would have known that Madeleine could have been found and it would have been worse for them if she was.    Who jeopardises their whole life like that?

Calpol? Are there no other medicines which can be used for sedation? Apparently it's quite common on long flights to knock one's kids out to keep them quiet. If Madeleine had been found deceased with sedatives in her system then 'the abductor' would have been to blame, as per the questions about sedation asked of the police.

[stephen25000]

Go back to the opening post before shouting at me. Then present a more informed response.

I wasn't shouting.

Far from it.

I was making a point.

[Lace]

Calpol? Are there no other medicines which can be used for sedation? Apparently it's quite common on long flights to knock one's kids out to keep them quiet. If Madeleine had been found deceased with sedatives in her system then 'the abductor' would have been to blame, as per the questions about sedation asked of the police.

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What sedatives do you think they would give a three year old and two two year olds?  Nothing was found in 5a.