Is UK 'culture' to blame for child neglect -leading to child suffering?

[Miss Taken Identity]

I just read up to find the article in question.

Strange story, but hard to tell if the article is accurate or not. It repeats the same details over and over for no fathomable reason.

I think I'll wait for further information on that one.

 It was in the Guardian and Independant newspapers.

[Carana]

It was in the Guardian and Independant newspapers.

Was it?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Was it?

Yes, I skimmed through them for research on something, and came across this story. I went to an American forum and it was being discussed.

I was correct in stating that there is a sub culture where this kind of treatment of children is the 'norm'. It is NOT embedded or accepted by mainstream families or accepted as UK culture for everyone to leave theior children alone at night in strange coutries...

[Carana]

Yes, I skimmed through them for research on something, and came across this story. I went to an American forum and it was being discussed.

I was correct in stating that there is a sub culture where this kind of treatment of children is the 'norm'. It is NOT embedded or accepted by mainstream families or accepted as UK culture for everyone to leave theior children alone at night in strange coutries...

For the moment, I can't find anything other than a few shoddy tabloids that have probably picked it up from the DM.

Strange story, though. I'll wait for further info on it.

[Miss Taken Identity]

For the moment, I can't find anything other than a few shoddy tabloids that have probably picked it up from the DM.

Strange story, though. I'll wait for further info on it.

I went back for the links but those papers had updated their pages. Along with the story about Missing /husband father of  Eastenders Actress...

Well, nothing wrong with shoddy tabloids that is where Kate n Gerry  make their money from ( serialisation) and advertising their 'charity' are you suggesting these papers tell lies and that Kate N GERRY are liars too? Oh My.

[G-Unit]

For the moment, I can't find anything other than a few shoddy tabloids that have probably picked it up from the DM.

Strange story, though. I'll wait for further info on it.

Shoddy tabloids when the story doesn't suit. Sources when it does? 

[carlymichelle]

Shoddy tabloids when the story doesn't suit. Sources when it does? 

  they love  the media when the  media love the mcanns and hate them when they dont

[Carana]

Shoddy tabloids when the story doesn't suit. Sources when it does? 

I simply can't form an opinion one way or another based on the DM article, which appears to have been then cribbed by other tabloids.

[mercury]

I just read up to find the article in question.

Strange story, but hard to tell if the article is accurate or not. It repeats the same details over and over for no fathomable reason.

I think I'll wait for further information on that one.

Which parts are vague as regards accuracy.
You can check against the facts here in the first link

http://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/other-courts/2015/2015-ny-slip-op-51097-u.html

Two more articles here in non legalese-speak

http://www.newyorkcriminallawyer-blog.com/2015/09/endangering-the-welfare-of-a-child-how-long-is-too-long-to-leave-your-child-in-an-ny-pl-260-10-prosecution.html

https://nydefenseattorney.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/bad-parenting-or-criminal-neglect/#more-299

It seems to me the law has little tolerance, LE has absolute zero tolerance, but in this case I cannot see that the arrest was unjustified. Who leaves their 6 month old alone for an hour in a room and then alone for an hour in a public lobby!

So in answer to the OP, the defence of , its a cultural difference, is, as Judge Judy might say, BALONEY...and her being a "veteran" police officer should know better both about this area AND what NYPD are like!

I thnk at the very least the child should (if as they say they have its best interests at heart)  have been taken back to the UK and let UK authorities / her and her family deal with it.

[Brietta]

Which parts are vague as regards accuracy.
You can check against the facts here in the first link

http://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/other-courts/2015/2015-ny-slip-op-51097-u.html

Two more articles here in non legalese-speak

http://www.newyorkcriminallawyer-blog.com/2015/09/endangering-the-welfare-of-a-child-how-long-is-too-long-to-leave-your-child-in-an-ny-pl-260-10-prosecution.html

https://nydefenseattorney.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/bad-parenting-or-criminal-neglect/#more-299

It seems to me the law has little tolerance, LE has absolute zero tolerance, but in this case I cannot see that the arrest was unjustified. Who leaves their 6 month old alone for an hour in a room and then alone for an hour in a public lobby!

So in answer to the OP, the defence of , its a cultural difference, is, as Judge Judy might say, BALONEY...and her being a "veteran" police officer should know better both about this area AND what NYPD are like!

I thnk at the very least the child should (if as they say they have its best interests at heart)  have been taken back to the UK and let UK authorities / her and her family deal with it.

I agree that a British child should be subject to a British jurisdiction if at all possible.  Being taken into care is a difficult option at any time although at times it is very necessary; but it is obvious that the NY system has its own problems.

[Alfred R Jones]

So, are you agreeing with this parenting behaviour? and if a child is raped, murdered, abducted, whilst theor parents 'enjoy' themselves, then it would be someone elses fault? the police perhaps or the guy who phoned the police? the journalist who reported it and blamed the parents? who's fault would it be in your opinion Alfie.

If a child is raped and murdered I would blame the rapist / murderer.  Who would you blame?

[Mr Gray]

If a child is raped and murdered I would blame the rapist / murderer.  Who would you blame?

probably Kate and Gerry because the child's parents were copying them

[Brietta]

At the moment in the US a group of lawyers have taken out a class action against New York's fostering system alleging its mismanagement.  I posted the link.

This thread concerns a British child who has been taken into care and placed in that fostering system.

I would be obliged if there was an explanation forthcoming as to why my post has been removed or in which way it was deemed to be off topic.

[slartibartfast]

At the moment in the US a group of lawyers have taken out a class action against New York's fostering system alleging its mismanagement.  I posted the link.

This thread concerns a British child who has been taken into care and placed in that fostering system.

I would be obliged if there was an explanation forthcoming as to why my post has been removed or in which way it was deemed to be off topic.

Because it had nothing to do with UK culture and child neglect combined and would divert from the topic.

[Admin]

Please stay on topic.

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