Wandering Off Topic

[Robittybob1]

Are you seriously suggesting that a mature woman and two police officers would have ignored a statement by a qualified doctor that her children were showing signs of having been sedated by a criminal? In my opinion no-one would have let such a statement pass without comment or action.

If Kate is talking to Silvia and Silvia translates and talks in Portuguese to the officers the officers are not part of the conversation, and Kate does not know what is being said in Portuguese.
I think your question should be:
"Are you seriously suggesting that a mature woman would have ignored a statement by a qualified doctor that her children were showing signs of having been sedated by someone else?"
And when you consider that Silvia could have a possible conflict of interest in the situation, anything becomes possible.

[Robittybob1]

From Madeleine

‘We tried to explain what had happened. David reiterated his concerns about roadblocks and border notification and I reported my fears that all three children could have been sedated. A lady called Sílvia, who worked at the Ocean Club, had arrived to help out with translation. We learned later that she was the maintenance and services manager. I remember her telling me that she had two grown-up daughters herself. She was very kind and I was glad of her help and support.’


Strange that not one of the people who the parents called that night report either of them voicing any fears that the twins may have been sedated and that their concerns were being ignored. Sílvia Batista, who would have translated any concerns, makes no mention of Kate raising any concerns either.

What she writes about David is not happening on the night but possibly when they were being interviewed by the UK police a couple of days later, when Silvia is not involved.

Even though reading the paragraph again it is more like that night rather than a couple of days later.

Does David say he asked for "his concerns about roadblocks and border notification" in his statement?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I didn't comment on likelihood, I said IF they had read it

Would Kate write a bunch of deliberate lies about events others were witnessed to, knowing that there was a likelihood or even a possibility that those individuals would call her out on it at a later date? 

[Brietta]

If Kate is talking to Silvia and Silvia translates and talks in Portuguese to the officers the officers are not part of the conversation, and Kate does not know what is being said in Portuguese.
I think your question should be:
"Are you seriously suggesting that a mature woman would have ignored a statement by a qualified doctor that her children were showing signs of having been sedated by someone else?"
And when you consider that Silvia could have a possible conflict of interest in the situation, anything becomes possible.

I think there could very well be more than one potential conflict of interest interestingly enough raised on a sceptic blog which I seldom read because quite simply it does my head in; and it has  nothing at all to do with the tapas nine and all to do with familial relationships within Mark Warner staff in Luz.

I am sure the alleged relationships have nothing at all to do with Madeleine's disappearance but as an area not subject to the 'groundhog day' syndrome it is nonetheless diverting.

[Brietta]

Would Kate write a bunch of deliberate lies about events others were witnessed to, knowing that there was a likelihood or even a possibility that those individuals would call her out on it at a later date?

I wouldn't think so ... particularly as our libel laws appear to be more robust than some.

[faithlilly]

I wouldn't think so ... particularly as our libel laws appear to be more robust than some.

But Kate herself admitted that she lied when she thought that she had no other choice, I can give you the quote if you wish.

Not sure why you think it would be libellous to write that she had reported the twins comatose state to an unnamed officer.

[G-Unit]

So?  Did Silvia Batista and the two GNR officers pass away prior to this astounding revelation in 2011, allowing her to make stuff up without fear of contradiction?

She might have thought she said it but it seems unlikely to me.

[Vertigo Swirl]

She might have thought she said it but it seems unlikely to me.

And of course you would know better than the woman who actually lived through the whole event.

[Vertigo Swirl]

But Kate herself admitted that she lied when she thought that she had no other choice, I can give you the quote if you wish.

Not sure why you think it would be libellous to write that she had reported the twins comatose state to an unnamed officer.

Why lie about something like this, a lie that can so easily be called out?  Sometimes you believe Kate is telling the truth (when it suits you to) yet you seem to think her admission in her book that she lied about something proves she is a liar, but also only when it suits you. 

[G-Unit]

And of course you would know better than the woman who actually lived through the whole event.

Either she has perfect recall or she was so distraught she got confused. It seems both arguments are used by her supporters depending on the discussion.

Rather than relying on Kate's imagined state of mind, it makes more sense to take note of the fact that no response was triggered. I'm no doctor but I'd have insisted on something being done if the doctor mother of two cheldren told me she feared they'd been sedated by persons unknown.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Either she has perfect recall or she was so distraught she got confused. It seems both arguments are used by her supporters depending on the discussion.

Rather than relying on Kate's imagined state of mind, it makes more sense to take note of the fact that no response was triggered. I'm no doctor but I'd have insisted on something being done if the doctor mother of two cheldren told me she feared they'd been sedated by persons unknown.

Did Silvia Batista know that night that Kate McCann was a doctor, and not just some seemingly hysterical foreign woman whose daughter had probably wandered off?

[Mr Gray]

Either she has perfect recall or she was so distraught she got confused. It seems both arguments are used by her supporters depending on the discussion.

Rather than relying on Kate's imagined state of mind, it makes more sense to take note of the fact that no response was triggered. I'm no doctor but I'd have insisted on something being done if the doctor mother of two cheldren told me she feared they'd been sedated by persons unknown.

you are no doctor...kate is...and she was happy the twins were in no danger...weve already done many pages on this topic...you have your opinion ...tahts all

[Robittybob1]

And of course you would know better than the woman who actually lived through the whole event.

Theoretically true.

[G-Unit]

Did Silvia Batista know that night that Kate McCann was a doctor, and not just some seemingly hysterical foreign woman whose daughter had probably wandered off?

No-one with any sense ignores a mother who says she thinks her children have been sedated. As the supposed sedation was carried out by a criminal there's clearly a danger to their lives. It would have to be taken seriously and checked out.

[Mr Gray]

No-one with any sense ignores a mother who says she thinks her children have been sedated. As the supposed sedation was carried out by a criminal there's clearly a danger to their lives. It would have to be taken seriously and checked out.

This has been discussed at length.... No point in going over the same ground.... Just another excuse to Bash the mccanns