Wandering Off Topic

[Erngath]

I made them comments on the Brexit thread.

All the terms I used were previously used by Boris Johnson.

My sincere apologies to any that were offended.

I knew he had used one of those offensive IMO descriptions but didn't realize that he had used all three!
What a wonderful Prime Minister he is !
How lucky are we to have such an inspirational leader in this 21 st century !

[Anthro]

Does anyone know if the telephone records between Mark Warner reservations in the United Kingdom and the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz have been looked at and analysed?

[G-Unit]

I knew he had used one of those offensive IMO descriptions but didn't realize that he had used all three!
What a wonderful Prime Minister he is !
How lucky are we to have such an inspirational leader in this 21 st century !

In the end there was no alternative imo. 

[G-Unit]

Does anyone know if the telephone records between Mark Warner reservations in the United Kingdom and the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz have been looked at and analysed?

I don't think so. What is it you want to know?

[Eleanor]

Does anyone know if the telephone records between Mark Warner reservations in the United Kingdom and the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz have been looked at and analysed?

I would like to have a look at several other Phone Records.

[Anthro]

‘I don’t think so. What is it you want to know?’

A forensic trail.

[G-Unit]

‘I don’t think so. What is it you want to know?’

A forensic trail.

I don't think the first investigation thought to collect that information. I know that Mark Warner collected certain information from it's clients, but not how this was passed on to the people working for Greentrust, which ran the Ocean Club.

[Brietta]

I don't think the first investigation thought to collect that information. I know that Mark Warner collected certain information from it's clients, but not how this was passed on to the people working for Greentrust, which ran the Ocean Club.

According to Scotland Yard, the phone records had been "looked at" during the initial Portuguese police investigation but not in detail.

Jim Gamble, the former head of the UK's Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre told the BBC's Today programme he had recommended the "cell dump" was looked at again in his 2010 review of the case.

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Mr Gamble said the EU data retention directive, which compels telephone companies to retain call and internet records for a period of time, was at an "immature stage" in 2007.

But he said it appeared the data "wasn't properly or appropriately interrogated," at the time.

In UK investigations, he would expect the data to have been examined almost immediately, he said, but the "complex nature and geography" had made it more difficult.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24386130


The information was available to the first investigation I just don't think they used it properly.

[ShiningInLuz]

Dibujos animados.

Dibujo means drawing, animado means animated, so you get cartoons.

This is an artificial intelligence version.  It maps the face of a drawing, then animates it because it knows how faces work.

Click on the link for an animated Eleanor.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/12/18/ciencia/1576667541_021128.html

 

[Eleanor]

Dibujos animados.

Dibujo means drawing, animado means animated, so you get cartoons.

This is an artificial intelligence version.  It maps the face of a drawing, then animates it because it knows how faces work.

Click on the link for an animated Eleanor.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/12/18/ciencia/1576667541_021128.html

 

Better looking than I first thought.

[G-Unit]

According to Scotland Yard, the phone records had been "looked at" during the initial Portuguese police investigation but not in detail.

Jim Gamble, the former head of the UK's Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre told the BBC's Today programme he had recommended the "cell dump" was looked at again in his 2010 review of the case.

_________________________________________________________________

Mr Gamble said the EU data retention directive, which compels telephone companies to retain call and internet records for a period of time, was at an "immature stage" in 2007.

But he said it appeared the data "wasn't properly or appropriately interrogated," at the time.

In UK investigations, he would expect the data to have been examined almost immediately, he said, but the "complex nature and geography" had made it more difficult.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24386130


The information was available to the first investigation I just don't think they used it properly.

I haven't seen anything relating to phone calls from Mark Warner in London to Greentrust in PdL.

[Brietta]

I haven't seen anything relating to phone calls from Mark Warner in London to Greentrust in PdL.

Neither have I but apparently unlike you I haven't been looking.  Anyway why do you think a private company with a vested interest should have anything to do with evidence in a criminal investigation if not for the purpose of handing it directly to the police.

I have given a link which suggests the police had information regarding phone calls early days in the investigation and that it " ...  "wasn't properly or appropriately interrogated," at the time. (Jim Gamble); in my opinion the proof of that lies in the attention given to the phone traffic of the McCanns and their friends proving both points. 
(a)  the information was at hand and available.
(b)  the information was not interrogated as it should have been.
Amaral took his eye off the ball in his eagerness to nail the McCanns by concentrating on them and Murat and by the look of it, while ignoring all else that was going on around him.

[barrier]

We all know what happened in 2014 after a deep audit of phone data by OG.

[Brietta]

We all know what happened in 2014 after a deep audit of phone data by OG.

I don't ... nor do I remember them telling anyone else.

[G-Unit]

Neither have I but apparently unlike you I haven't been looking.  Anyway why do you think a private company with a vested interest should have anything to do with evidence in a criminal investigation if not for the purpose of handing it directly to the police.

I have given a link which suggests the police had information regarding phone calls early days in the investigation and that it " ...  "wasn't properly or appropriately interrogated," at the time. (Jim Gamble); in my opinion the proof of that lies in the attention given to the phone traffic of the McCanns and their friends proving both points. 
(a)  the information was at hand and available.
(b)  the information was not interrogated as it should have been.
Amaral took his eye off the ball in his eagerness to nail the McCanns by concentrating on them and Murat and by the look of it, while ignoring all else that was going on around him.

I can't see why the particular evidence mentioned would be relevant.