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Offline Erngath

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7110 on: December 21, 2019, 09:41:34 AM »
I made them comments on the Brexit thread.

All the terms I used were previously used by Boris Johnson.

My sincere apologies to any that were offended.

I knew he had used one of those offensive IMO descriptions but didn't realize that he had used all three!
What a wonderful Prime Minister he is !
How lucky are we to have such an inspirational leader in this 21 st century !
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Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Anthro

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7111 on: December 21, 2019, 10:16:15 AM »
Does anyone know if the telephone records between Mark Warner reservations in the United Kingdom and the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz have been looked at and analysed?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7112 on: December 21, 2019, 10:33:31 AM »
I knew he had used one of those offensive IMO descriptions but didn't realize that he had used all three!
What a wonderful Prime Minister he is !
How lucky are we to have such an inspirational leader in this 21 st century !

In the end there was no alternative imo. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7113 on: December 21, 2019, 10:35:09 AM »
Does anyone know if the telephone records between Mark Warner reservations in the United Kingdom and the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz have been looked at and analysed?

I don't think so. What is it you want to know?
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #7114 on: December 21, 2019, 10:36:36 AM »
Does anyone know if the telephone records between Mark Warner reservations in the United Kingdom and the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz have been looked at and analysed?

I would like to have a look at several other Phone Records.

Offline Anthro

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7115 on: December 21, 2019, 11:42:37 AM »
‘I don’t think so. What is it you want to know?’

A forensic trail.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7116 on: December 21, 2019, 12:25:55 PM »
‘I don’t think so. What is it you want to know?’

A forensic trail.

I don't think the first investigation thought to collect that information. I know that Mark Warner collected certain information from it's clients, but not how this was passed on to the people working for Greentrust, which ran the Ocean Club.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #7117 on: December 21, 2019, 01:13:25 PM »
I don't think the first investigation thought to collect that information. I know that Mark Warner collected certain information from it's clients, but not how this was passed on to the people working for Greentrust, which ran the Ocean Club.

According to Scotland Yard, the phone records had been "looked at" during the initial Portuguese police investigation but not in detail.

Jim Gamble, the former head of the UK's Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre told the BBC's Today programme he had recommended the "cell dump" was looked at again in his 2010 review of the case.
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Mr Gamble said the EU data retention directive, which compels telephone companies to retain call and internet records for a period of time, was at an "immature stage" in 2007.

But he said it appeared the data "wasn't properly or appropriately interrogated," at the time.

In UK investigations, he would expect the data to have been examined almost immediately, he said, but the "complex nature and geography" had made it more difficult.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24386130


The information was available to the first investigation I just don't think they used it properly.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7118 on: December 21, 2019, 01:32:48 PM »

Dibujos animados.

Dibujo means drawing, animado means animated, so you get cartoons.

This is an artificial intelligence version.  It maps the face of a drawing, then animates it because it knows how faces work.

Click on the link for an animated Eleanor.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/12/18/ciencia/1576667541_021128.html

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What's up, old man?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7119 on: December 21, 2019, 01:35:33 PM »
Dibujos animados.

Dibujo means drawing, animado means animated, so you get cartoons.

This is an artificial intelligence version.  It maps the face of a drawing, then animates it because it knows how faces work.

Click on the link for an animated Eleanor.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/12/18/ciencia/1576667541_021128.html

 (&^&

Better looking than I first thought.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7120 on: December 21, 2019, 02:10:17 PM »
According to Scotland Yard, the phone records had been "looked at" during the initial Portuguese police investigation but not in detail.

Jim Gamble, the former head of the UK's Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre told the BBC's Today programme he had recommended the "cell dump" was looked at again in his 2010 review of the case.
_________________________________________________________________

Mr Gamble said the EU data retention directive, which compels telephone companies to retain call and internet records for a period of time, was at an "immature stage" in 2007.

But he said it appeared the data "wasn't properly or appropriately interrogated," at the time.

In UK investigations, he would expect the data to have been examined almost immediately, he said, but the "complex nature and geography" had made it more difficult.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24386130


The information was available to the first investigation I just don't think they used it properly.

I haven't seen anything relating to phone calls from Mark Warner in London to Greentrust in PdL.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7121 on: December 21, 2019, 05:06:14 PM »
I haven't seen anything relating to phone calls from Mark Warner in London to Greentrust in PdL.

Neither have I but apparently unlike you I haven't been looking.  Anyway why do you think a private company with a vested interest should have anything to do with evidence in a criminal investigation if not for the purpose of handing it directly to the police.

I have given a link which suggests the police had information regarding phone calls early days in the investigation and that it " ...  "wasn't properly or appropriately interrogated," at the time. (Jim Gamble); in my opinion the proof of that lies in the attention given to the phone traffic of the McCanns and their friends proving both points. 
(a)  the information was at hand and available.
(b)  the information was not interrogated as it should have been.
Amaral took his eye off the ball in his eagerness to nail the McCanns by concentrating on them and Murat and by the look of it, while ignoring all else that was going on around him.
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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7122 on: December 21, 2019, 05:37:39 PM »
We all know what happened in 2014 after a deep audit of phone data by OG.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7123 on: December 21, 2019, 06:49:54 PM »
We all know what happened in 2014 after a deep audit of phone data by OG.

I don't ... nor do I remember them telling anyone else.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #7124 on: December 21, 2019, 07:51:34 PM »
Neither have I but apparently unlike you I haven't been looking.  Anyway why do you think a private company with a vested interest should have anything to do with evidence in a criminal investigation if not for the purpose of handing it directly to the police.

I have given a link which suggests the police had information regarding phone calls early days in the investigation and that it " ...  "wasn't properly or appropriately interrogated," at the time. (Jim Gamble); in my opinion the proof of that lies in the attention given to the phone traffic of the McCanns and their friends proving both points. 
(a)  the information was at hand and available.
(b)  the information was not interrogated as it should have been.
Amaral took his eye off the ball in his eagerness to nail the McCanns by concentrating on them and Murat and by the look of it, while ignoring all else that was going on around him.

I can't see why the particular evidence mentioned would be relevant.
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