Wandering Off Topic

[Lace]

I wonder what villa owners should look like ?

The person said there were really old cars,  that's why I'm interested.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I wonder what villa owners should look like ?

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/who-is-nassef-sawiris-villa-17082772

[G-Unit]

I've been trying to find the details about a villa which had camera's set up in it, found when searching for Madeleine in Portugal.   I didn't dream it.  I also remember a witness saying she saw people arriving at a villa they didn't look [to her] the type of people who would have owned it.   Can't remember where I read it..

Is this it?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/103035/Madeleine-The-missed-clues-at-1m-villa

[Lace]

Is this it?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/103035/Madeleine-The-missed-clues-at-1m-villa

Yes!!   Thanks G-Unit.

[faithlilly]

Is this it?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/103035/Madeleine-The-missed-clues-at-1m-villa

It’d forgotten how silly the stories were in the early days.

[G-Unit]

It’d forgotten how silly the stories were in the early days.

And how many people claimed to have told their stories to the police. Then the police files were put on the internet and translated...........

[Vertigo Swirl]

And how many people claimed to have told their stories to the police. Then the police files were put on the internet and translated...........

Is that a poor reflection on the people who say they went to the police, or the police themselves do you think? When were the translated files put on the net?  Before this news report surely...

[Lace]

It’d forgotten how silly the stories were in the early days.

Oh is that a silly story?

[faithlilly]

Oh is that a silly story?

Absolutely. People making value judgements and passing them off as ‘concerns’.

Imagine if the police hadn’t had to waste time following up these tales....Madeleine’s whereabouts may actually have been discovered.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Absolutely. People making value judgements and passing them off as ‘concerns’.

Imagine if the police hadn’t had to waste time following up these tales....Madeleine’s whereabouts may actually have been discovered.

As G-Unit pointed out there is no evidence whatsoever of the police following up any concerns by these people.  I guess the general public should just keep their concerns to themsleves, including Dr Gaspar for example.

[Mr Gray]

Absolutely. People making value judgements and passing them off as ‘concerns’.

Imagine if the police hadn’t had to waste time following up these tales....Madeleine’s whereabouts may actually have been discovered.

Many crimes, are solved by information from the public that otherwise would not be solved.. Particularly those involving strangers

[Brietta]

Oh is that a silly story?

If it is the Villa Caso Ao Pescareza  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1391.msg39988#msg39988 the location is interesting.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So it was Jenny Murat

Jenny Murat (71) revealed she had unearthed a new line of inquiry when she and a friend reported a gang of suspicious strangers to police - days before she knew her son was in the frame for the shocking crime.

But Jenny claimed the lead - centred on a house less than two miles from where Madeleine was grabbed - was IGNORED for weeks by detectives.

And she accused them of not acting on it urgently because Murat was their only suspect and she is his only alibi.

Sister-in-law Sally Eveleigh, 56, told The People, that as a huge manhunt was launched for the kidnapper, Jenny remembered seeing three strangers - a couple in their 30s and a woman in her 50s - at a large isolated house nearby.

She had spotted the building - called Casa Ao Pescareza - while walking her dog along a coastal path.

Sally said: "Jenny was intrigued because they looked like gipsies or travellers and were driving a clapped-out old red car with a British number plate. They looked out of place in this grand house with its big drive and swimming pool.
"But they also seemed to have a string of visitors - men in smart suits driving plush new cars like Mercedes.

"On one occasion the older woman told Jenny they always came to Luz in summer and were staying four months.

"She spoke perfect English but Jenny thought she had a French or possibly Middle-Eastern accent.

"Then two days after Maddie vanished Jenny was walking down that way again and noticed the house was shut up and deserted.

"There was no sign of the trio after that - even though they had said they would be there all summer."

Jenny jotted her recollections on a piece of paper which was passed to police.

She also gave them the name of a pal who had shared her suspicions about the "odd" tenants.

The People, which has seen Jenny's notes, has learnt cops did not contact the friend for two months.

Sally said: "People will probably say that Jenny is clutching at straws.

"But she reported it to police a couple of days after Madeleine vanished and more than a week before anyone knew Robert would be questioned."
 
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If it’s not in the police files then I guess Murat’s mother and her sister in law made it all up.

[Eleanor]

So it was Jenny Murat

Jenny Murat (71) revealed she had unearthed a new line of inquiry when she and a friend reported a gang of suspicious strangers to police - days before she knew her son was in the frame for the shocking crime.

But Jenny claimed the lead - centred on a house less than two miles from where Madeleine was grabbed - was IGNORED for weeks by detectives.

And she accused them of not acting on it urgently because Murat was their only suspect and she is his only alibi.

Sister-in-law Sally Eveleigh, 56, told The People, that as a huge manhunt was launched for the kidnapper, Jenny remembered seeing three strangers - a couple in their 30s and a woman in her 50s - at a large isolated house nearby.

She had spotted the building - called Casa Ao Pescareza - while walking her dog along a coastal path.

Sally said: "Jenny was intrigued because they looked like gipsies or travellers and were driving a clapped-out old red car with a British number plate. They looked out of place in this grand house with its big drive and swimming pool.
"But they also seemed to have a string of visitors - men in smart suits driving plush new cars like Mercedes.

"On one occasion the older woman told Jenny they always came to Luz in summer and were staying four months.

"She spoke perfect English but Jenny thought she had a French or possibly Middle-Eastern accent.

"Then two days after Maddie vanished Jenny was walking down that way again and noticed the house was shut up and deserted.

"There was no sign of the trio after that - even though they had said they would be there all summer."

Jenny jotted her recollections on a piece of paper which was passed to police.

She also gave them the name of a pal who had shared her suspicions about the "odd" tenants.

The People, which has seen Jenny's notes, has learnt cops did not contact the friend for two months.

Sally said: "People will probably say that Jenny is clutching at straws.

"But she reported it to police a couple of days after Madeleine vanished and more than a week before anyone knew Robert would be questioned."
 
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If it’s not in the police files then I guess Murat’s mother and her sister in law made it all up.

Thanks for that, VS.  I thought it was Jenny Murat.  There isn't much wrong with my memory.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Thanks for that, VS.  I thought it was Jenny Murat.  There isn't much wrong with my memory.

I wonder if Faithlilly and G-Unit still consider it to be a silly and /or fake story now that they know it involved Jenny Murat.  I mean if they think she made this up, where does that leave the alibi she gave for her son’s whereabouts that night?