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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #9285 on: January 03, 2021, 06:22:27 PM »
I wonder if Faithlilly and G-Unit still consider it to be a silly and /or fake story now that they know it involved Jenny Murat.  I mean if they think she made this up, where does that leave the alibi she gave for her son’s whereabouts that night?

But Jenny Murat didn't make it up and had another witness to support her.  It is just another example of PJ Incompetence.

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #9286 on: January 03, 2021, 06:41:33 PM »
But Jenny Murat didn't make it up and had another witness to support her.  It is just another example of PJ Incompetence.

I think the PJ never had the experience  or the manpower to investigate properly.  In the UK as I understand.. Every lead would be followed  up

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #9287 on: January 03, 2021, 06:50:29 PM »
I think the PJ never had the experience  or the manpower to investigate properly.  In the UK as I understand.. Every lead would be followed  up

No, The PJ didn't.  But that is beside the point.  The PJ did a massive amount of damage in their ignorance.  Totally ignoring Judicial Secrecy while demanding it of everyone else with threats of Imprisonment.  Madeleine never stood a chance under the watch of The PJ.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9288 on: January 03, 2021, 06:55:50 PM »
I think the PJ never had the experience  or the manpower to investigate properly.  In the UK as I understand.. Every lead would be followed  up
And yet according to a PJ apologist on this forum
“Imagine if the police hadn’t had to waste time following up these tales....Madeleine’s whereabouts may actually have been discovered”

to which I say

Imagine if the PJ HAD followed up on such a report, Madeleine’s whereabouts may actually have been discovered..
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #9289 on: January 03, 2021, 07:04:03 PM »
And yet according to a PJ apologist on this forum
“Imagine if the police hadn’t had to waste time following up these tales....Madeleine’s whereabouts may actually have been discovered”

to which I say

Imagine if the PJ HAD followed up on such a report, Madeleine’s whereabouts may actually have been discovered..

And some.  This wasn't the only failure.  And you can't find something if you don't look for it.

Meanwhile, The PJ led by Amaral were too busy trying to stitch up The McCanns.

There are times when I don't want to be reminded of how awful it all was.

Heaven alone helped The McCanns.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #9290 on: January 03, 2021, 09:22:10 PM »
I wonder if Faithlilly and G-Unit still consider it to be a silly and /or fake story now that they know it involved Jenny Murat.  I mean if they think she made this up, where does that leave the alibi she gave for her son’s whereabouts that night?

Jenny Murat gave out two stories to the press that she doesn't seem to have shared with the police; this one and the lady in purple one. This one first surfaced in The People on 29th July 2007. [https://www.thefreelibrary.com/MURAT+MOTHER%27S+FURY%3B+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Shocked+Jenny+says+Maddie+suspect+was...-a0166903584]
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #9291 on: January 03, 2021, 10:16:59 PM »
Jenny Murat gave out two stories to the press that she doesn't seem to have shared with the police; this one and the lady in purple one. This one first surfaced in The People on 29th July 2007. [https://www.thefreelibrary.com/MURAT+MOTHER%27S+FURY%3B+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Shocked+Jenny+says+Maddie+suspect+was...-a0166903584]

What makes you think she didn't share them with the police

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9292 on: January 03, 2021, 10:22:46 PM »
Jenny Murat gave out two stories to the press that she doesn't seem to have shared with the police; this one and the lady in purple one. This one first surfaced in The People on 29th July 2007. [https://www.thefreelibrary.com/MURAT+MOTHER%27S+FURY%3B+EXCLUSIVE%3A+Shocked+Jenny+says+Maddie+suspect+was...-a0166903584]
She says she went to the police.  Are you calling her a liar?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #9293 on: January 03, 2021, 10:36:43 PM »
What makes you think she didn't share them with the police

Reports made to the PJ can be found here;

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/

There is one statement from Jenny Murat and nothing else.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9294 on: January 03, 2021, 10:39:22 PM »
Reports made to the PJ can be found here;

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/

There is one statement from Jenny Murat and nothing else.
And?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #9295 on: January 03, 2021, 11:05:15 PM »
And?

There is no evidence that Jenny Murat or anyone else spoke to the police about Casa Ao Pescareza.
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Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #9296 on: January 03, 2021, 11:14:25 PM »
But Jenny Murat didn't make it up and had another witness to support her.  It is just another example of PJ Incompetence.

Did anyone say that Jenny Murat made the sighting up? I said the witness made a value judgement ie the people they saw didn’t conform to their preconceived idea of the situation. I’m sure Murat’s mother was totally sincere in her recollection.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

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« Reply #9297 on: January 03, 2021, 11:24:28 PM »
There is no evidence that Jenny Murat or anyone else spoke to the police about Casa Ao Pescareza.
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What really makes me chuckle about this whole thread is that the only way we know how many leads the PJ failed to follow up, did not take seriously etc, etc, etc is because the files were made public. We have no idea how often this happens in other parts of the world, and least of all the U.K. because we are not given access to that sort of information. Therefore to somehow suggest that the British police would have followed up every nonsense ‘feeling that something is not right’ brought to them by a well meaning member of the public is simply absurd.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9298 on: January 03, 2021, 11:31:53 PM »
There is no evidence that Jenny Murat or anyone else spoke to the police about Casa Ao Pescareza.
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Yes there is.  Jenny and her sister-in-law both said that she did.  Why do you not accept their word?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #9299 on: January 03, 2021, 11:35:52 PM »
What really makes me chuckle about this whole thread is that the only way we know how many leads the PJ failed to follow up, did not take seriously etc, etc, etc is because the files were made public. We have no idea how often this happens in other parts of the world, and least of all the U.K. because we are not given access to that sort of information. Therefore to somehow suggest that the British police would have followed up every nonsense ‘feeling that something is not right’ brought to them by a well meaning member of the public is simply absurd.
What is absurd is to wait two months before deciding to follow up a possible lead that was given in the first few days after a young child goes missing.  It’s absurd and negligent imo.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".