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Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10740 on: August 16, 2021, 04:22:37 PM »
Read what Jim Gamble said about the case. I know you probably have already. But in the majority of missing children cases there is family involvement. You have to start there. I know that carrying a child out of the window is nigh on impossible then you have to ask why is it open? Changing entry method of checks has been described as a “red flag” by a retired criminal investigator. The two Tapas employee testimony that state Gerry was away for half an hour needed to be rigorously checked. The Smithman sighting is significant. I’ve read some reports that the PJ had accounted for Totman so why was a 9:15 abduction pursued for so long? Because the ground wasn’t cleared from under their feet we are now left with a mess!! The biggest irony is the PJ failure was actually pursuing an abductor before they had cleared the ground.

Who said that Gerry was away for half an hour?

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10741 on: August 16, 2021, 04:34:57 PM »
According to an earlier post, it's not in the public domain. Only the of Mr Carpenter is available.

Yes I did know that.  Which is why I was wondering why "Based on the statement of Mrs Carpenter, unless she was fantasizing." was said.

Of course we do know that the files Levy posted on the internet are not the whole story.  I think a bit of cherry picking took place.

My assumption is that we haven't seen Mrs Carpenter's statement not because she was fantasizing but because she wasn't and her statement didn't back up her husband's.  Simple as.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10742 on: August 16, 2021, 04:40:43 PM »
Read what Jim Gamble said about the case. I know you probably have already. But in the majority of missing children cases there is family involvement. You have to start there. I know that carrying a child out of the window is nigh on impossible then you have to ask why is it open? Changing entry method of checks has been described as a “red flag” by a retired criminal investigator. The two Tapas employee testimony that state Gerry was away for half an hour needed to be rigorously checked. The Smithman sighting is significant. I’ve read some reports that the PJ had accounted for Totman so why was a 9:15 abduction pursued for so long? Because the ground wasn’t cleared from under their feet we are now left with a mess!! The biggest irony is the PJ failure was actually pursuing an abductor before they had cleared the ground.

You are going to have to come up with a couple of cites here.  Starting with the PJ accounting for Totman.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10743 on: August 16, 2021, 04:46:45 PM »
Read what Jim Gamble said about the case. I know you probably have already. But in the majority of missing children cases there is family involvement. You have to start there. I know that carrying a child out of the window is nigh on impossible then you have to ask why is it open? Changing entry method of checks has been described as a “red flag” by a retired criminal investigator. The two Tapas employee testimony that state Gerry was away for half an hour needed to be rigorously checked. The Smithman sighting is significant. I’ve read some reports that the PJ had accounted for Totman so why was a 9:15 abduction pursued for so long? Because the ground wasn’t cleared from under their feet we are now left with a mess!! The biggest irony is the PJ failure was actually pursuing an abductor before they had cleared the ground.

I think its quite possible that Wolters has photo/video of Maddie in the hands of a paedophile..thats why I think what you are posting is totally irrelevant

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10744 on: August 16, 2021, 04:47:37 PM »
Read what Jim Gamble said about the case. I know you probably have already. But in the majority of missing children cases there is family involvement. You have to start there. I know that carrying a child out of the window is nigh on impossible then you have to ask why is it open? Changing entry method of checks has been described as a “red flag” by a retired criminal investigator. The two Tapas employee testimony that state Gerry was away for half an hour needed to be rigorously checked. The Smithman sighting is significant. I’ve read some reports that the PJ had accounted for Totman so why was a 9:15 abduction pursued for so long? Because the ground wasn’t cleared from under their feet we are now left with a mess!! The biggest irony is the PJ failure was actually pursuing an abductor before they had cleared the ground.
I’ve read what Jim Gamble has said about the case.  I’m surprised you set any store by his opinion as he is quite clear that in his the parents had nothing to do with it.  How do you account for this, if you consider him worth reading?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10745 on: August 16, 2021, 04:53:10 PM »

Who said that Gerry was gone for half an hour?

We need to know this.

Offline jassi

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« Reply #10746 on: August 16, 2021, 04:55:47 PM »
Do we?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10747 on: August 16, 2021, 04:58:18 PM »
Do we?

In that case we can discard this statement as exaggeration, or possibly even fibs?

Offline jassi

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« Reply #10748 on: August 16, 2021, 05:12:16 PM »
All the timing is vague, deliberately so iMO, All we know is that Gerry was away for longer than was expected by other party members.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10749 on: August 16, 2021, 05:14:45 PM »
All the timing is vague, deliberately so iMO, All we know is that Gerry was away for longer than was expected by other party members.

He was talking to Jez.  According to Jez.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10750 on: August 16, 2021, 06:11:11 PM »
I think its quite possible that Wolters has photo/video of Maddie in the hands of a paedophile..thats why I think what you are posting is totally irrelevant

If they have that evidence then why have they been pedalling him as the “prime suspect” for months but no charges?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #10751 on: August 16, 2021, 06:28:55 PM »
If they have that evidence then why have they been pedalling him as the “prime suspect” for months but no charges?
Because the case they are building against him is not yet watertight presumably.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #10752 on: August 16, 2021, 06:32:31 PM »
If they have that evidence then why have they been pedalling him as the “prime suspect” for months but no charges?

What happened to the cite I requested?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #10753 on: August 16, 2021, 06:47:45 PM »
 *%^^&
If they have that evidence then why have they been pedalling him as the “prime suspect” for months but no charges?

Ive posted the reason before.. If he is in the video his features may be pixellated. I dont think the Germans would announce evidence of maddies death if they did not have it

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

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« Reply #10754 on: August 16, 2021, 08:56:31 PM »
You are going to have to come up with a couple of cites here.  Starting with the PJ accounting for Totman.

His wife said so……
He was quizzed by the Guarda Nacional Republicana soon after Madeleine, three, vanished.

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His wife Rachel told The Sun: "My husband had told the local police it could be him but we didn’t hear anything for years.