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Offline rotti

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #435 on: June 26, 2016, 11:11:49 AM »
I was so convinced of a remain win that I didn't bother voting and when I woke up Fri morning I had forgotten all about it!

Can those that voted leave tell me what they think the advantages are.

Financial markets had factored in a remain.  Sterling and global stock markets fell sharply on Friday.  How can this be good for anyone?  Most hate the idea of being a slave to the 'markets' but they are a bellwether of confidence.  Without confidence businesses will put off investing and hiring.  Individuals will defer purchasing any big ticket items.  If tax receipts fall this will have a knock on effect on public services and add to the deficit. 

The UK could lose its EU financial passport (MiIFID).  Why will the EU allow the UK to retain it when it is no longer a member of the EU?  As much as many loathe bankers, the City and all it represents the financial services industry is a major contributor to the UK economy.

The PM has resigned and it looks like JC is on his way out.  Nicola Sturgeon is looking at another vote on Scottish independence.  How can any of this uncertainty be good for anyone or anything?

Unconvinced  &%+((£
on another note holly.if we win euro 2016 ,will there allow us to take the cup home also will we still be allowed to compete in the next one 8(8-))

Offline rotti

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #436 on: June 26, 2016, 11:15:19 AM »
Even 'luxury' brands such as Prada are often made in China.
i hope burberrys is still a uk owned company,the japs and Chinese love burberrys 8((()*/

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #437 on: June 26, 2016, 11:16:38 AM »
on another note holly.if we win euro 2016 ,will there allow us to take the cup home also will we still be allowed to compete in the next one 8(8-))
Russia took part in Euro 2016 and as they are not a member of the EU I don't think we need concern ourselves too much about it.  It's certainly the least of my worries anyway...

Offline rotti

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #438 on: June 26, 2016, 11:17:47 AM »
Russia took part in Euro 2016 and as they are not a member of the EU I don't think we need concern ourselves too much about it.  It's certainly the least of my worries anyway...
yes i forgot about them ,alfie

Offline G-Unit

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #439 on: June 26, 2016, 11:21:15 AM »
How many of the voters for Brexit even knew what the EU was ?

You should have listened to some of the brexit voters on the phone ins on LBC.

As to Blair, the less said the better.

Once again you are decrying people because they don't agree with you. I'm surprised Stephen because you have always objected to that kind of behaviour in other debates.

No matter what you think of some of the people of this country their vote counted for one, just as yours did. Would you prefer a return to the days when only those perceived as the 'better' people were allowed to vote? I'm sure there were almost as many reasons for voters to vote one way or the other as there were voters. Are you assuming that all the remain voters were educated deep thinking people who understood and weighed the issues carefully before voting? Dream on.

I also think that dismissing a relevant point by anyone because you don't like them is unworthy of you. Again, you seem to be behaving just like those you have previously criticised.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #440 on: June 26, 2016, 11:22:17 AM »
on another note holly.if we win euro 2016 ,will there allow us to take the cup home also will we still be allowed to compete in the next one 8(8-))

I like your PMA  8(>((

Eligibility to bring the cup home and compete in the 2020 tournament is not dependent on being a member of the EU.  Nothing and noone can change our geography.  We will always be a country in Europe.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #441 on: June 26, 2016, 11:26:09 AM »
Once again you are decrying people because they don't agree with you. I'm surprised Stephen because you have always objected to that kind of behaviour in other debates.

No matter what you think of some of the people of this country their vote counted for one, just as yours did. Would you prefer a return to the days when only those perceived as the 'better' people were allowed to vote? I'm sure there were almost as many reasons for voters to vote one way or the other as there were voters. Are you assuming that all the remain voters were educated deep thinking people who understood and weighed the issues carefully before voting? Dream on.

I also think that dismissing a relevant point by anyone because you don't like them is unworthy of you. Again, you seem to be behaving just like those you have previously criticised.



That is totally hypocritical, because you are doing exactly the same in giving your opinion.

Haven't you noticed the nature of the comments on here attacking those who don't support Brexit.

It seems some like to have their cake and eat it.

If you don't like my opinions on this, then I have one word for you.

Tough.

By the way, in case you didn't grasp it, most of the brexit supporters on the phone ins displayed  staggering ignorance.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #442 on: June 26, 2016, 11:31:27 AM »
I was so convinced of a remain win that I didn't bother voting and when I woke up Fri morning I had forgotten all about it!

Can those that voted leave tell me what they think the advantages are.

Financial markets had factored in a remain.  Sterling and global stock markets fell sharply on Friday.  How can this be good for anyone?  Most hate the idea of being a slave to the 'markets' but they are a bellwether of confidence.  Without confidence businesses will put off investing and hiring.  Individuals will defer purchasing any big ticket items.  If tax receipts fall this will have a knock on effect on public services and add to the deficit. 

The UK could lose its EU financial passport (MiIFID).  Why will the EU allow the UK to retain it when it is no longer a member of the EU?  As much as many loathe bankers, the City and all it represents the financial services industry is a major contributor to the UK economy.

The PM has resigned and it looks like JC is on his way out.  Nicola Sturgeon is looking at another vote on Scottish independence.  How can any of this uncertainty be good for anyone or anything?

Unconvinced  &%+((£

I didn't vote leave, but I am defending the result because voters voted and decided. That's democracy, which we are all supposed to believe in.

Our politicians are elected and paid to make the result work and they need to get on and do their jobs. Both sides should accept the result and concentrate on making the future as good as it can be for the voters.
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Offline rotti

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« Reply #443 on: June 26, 2016, 11:35:12 AM »
I didn't vote leave, but I am defending the result because voters voted and decided. That's democracy, which we are all supposed to believe in.

Our politicians are elected and paid to make the result work and they need to get on and do their jobs. Both sides should accept the result and concentrate on making the future as good as it can be for the voters.
totally agree ?{)(**

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #444 on: June 26, 2016, 11:37:42 AM »
i hope burberrys is still a uk owned company,the japs and Chinese love burberrys 8((()*/

Yes Burberry is a British brand and has been a recent success story in terms of its share price but I doubt the goods are made in the UK. Angela Ahrendts was the CEO for 8 years who left for Apple retail where she reportedly earned $73.4 million in shares in her first year!  Can any one individual be worth this?  As far as I'm aware Apple manufacturers in China.  I wonder what the remuneration packages are for those on the assembly lines? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline G-Unit

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #445 on: June 26, 2016, 11:38:20 AM »


That is totally hypocritical, because you are doing exactly the same in giving your opinion.

Haven't you noticed the nature of the comments on here attacking those who don't support Brexit.

It seems some like to have their cake and eat it.

If you don't like my opinions on this, then I have one word for you.

Tough.

By the way, in case you didn't grasp it, most of the brexit supporters on the phone ins displayed  staggering ignorance.

I respect all opinions. I don't respect those who attack the opinion holder rather than the opinion, as you well know. If I have done that on here I am quite prepared to apologise.
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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #446 on: June 26, 2016, 11:41:47 AM »
Yes Burberry is a British brand and has been a recent success story in terms of its share price but I doubt the goods are made in the UK. Angela Ahrendts was the CEO for 8 years who left for Apple retail where she reportedly earned $73.4 million in shares in her first year!  Can any one individual be worth this?  As far as I'm aware Apple manufacturers in China.  I wonder what the remuneration packages are for those on the assembly lines?
yes i agree holly,very puzzling

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #447 on: June 26, 2016, 11:47:53 AM »
I didn't vote leave, but I am defending the result because voters voted and decided. That's democracy, which we are all supposed to believe in.

Our politicians are elected and paid to make the result work and they need to get on and do their jobs. Both sides should accept the result and concentrate on making the future as good as it can be for the voters.

Well I sort of agree.  The main reason I didn't vote is that I didn't have the time/inclination to look into it all and I didn't want to rely on what I considered propaganda from both camps.

I think it would be better if we had a team of technocrats putting forward arguments for and against rather than what I considered a lot of scaremongering by MP's.  If I had my way I would do away politicians and a government would be formed by technocrats.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline rotti

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #448 on: June 26, 2016, 11:53:47 AM »
Well I sort of agree.  The main reason I didn't vote is that I didn't have the time/inclination to look into it all and I didn't want to rely on what I considered propaganda from both camps.

I think it would be better if we had a team of technocrats putting forward arguments for and against rather than what I considered a lot of scaremongering by MP's.  If I had my way I would do away politicians and a government would be formed by technocrats.
here here,they only listen when wanting our votes,but once in power they ignore the peoples thoughts and views and do what THEY  WANT 8()(((@#

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #449 on: June 26, 2016, 11:58:40 AM »
Scotland has a Brexit Veto.

Half of shadow cabinet to resign.

Sour grapes.

Sour British Grapes.
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