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Offline Mr Gray

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2565 on: April 22, 2017, 07:57:52 PM »
The PJ spent a lot more effort investigating Murat than the McCanns. He was still of interest when Grime and his dogs were brought in, hence the search of his house and various vehicles.

makes you think they just wanted someone who wasnt portuguese

Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2566 on: April 22, 2017, 08:24:35 PM »
The PJ spent a lot more effort investigating Murat than the McCanns. He was still of interest when Grime and his dogs were brought in, hence the search of his house and various vehicles.

Wasn't that more down to Mark Harrison's recommendations?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2567 on: April 22, 2017, 09:32:56 PM »
Wasn't that more down to Mark Harrison's recommendations?
agreed, but once they were found to be fruitless searches they needed to move on.
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Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2568 on: April 22, 2017, 11:20:23 PM »
agreed, but once they were found to be fruitless searches they needed to move on.

Incomplete searches. RM's hire car was never examined by the cadaver/blood dogs.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2569 on: April 24, 2017, 10:12:41 AM »
Incomplete searches. RM's hire car was never examined by the cadaver/blood dogs.
Well that is in the files I presume.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2570 on: April 24, 2017, 10:56:41 AM »
Well that is in the files I presume.

I can only speak from memory, but I am pretty certain that Robert Murat's hire car wasn't included in the search.

Not that I think he was driving around with a dead body in the back.

And a non search would hardly have been included in The Files.

Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2571 on: April 24, 2017, 11:03:32 AM »
Wasn't that more down to Mark Harrison's recommendations?

It was Encarnacao who decided which of Harrison's recommendations should be acted on.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2572 on: April 24, 2017, 11:09:52 AM »
It was Encarnacao who decided which of Harrison's recommendations should be acted on.

Interesting.  So Mark Harrison's recommendations were ignored or not, by The PJ.  Whatever suited them, it seems.

Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2573 on: April 24, 2017, 12:38:20 PM »
Interesting.  So Mark Harrison's recommendations were ignored or not, by The PJ.  Whatever suited them, it seems.

He was there at their request and what was investigated was their choice, not his. That situation remains the same within Portugal, which has the lead in this case.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2574 on: April 24, 2017, 12:56:47 PM »
He was there at their request and what was investigated was their choice, not his. That situation remains the same within Portugal, which has the lead in this case.

So they asked him to do stuff, and then ignored it if it didn't suit them.

Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2575 on: April 24, 2017, 01:26:05 PM »
Well that is in the files I presume.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P8/08_VOLUME%20VIIIa_Page_2153.jpg

Hyundai on list but never inspected by cadaver/blood dogs.

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2576 on: April 24, 2017, 01:36:35 PM »
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P8/08_VOLUME%20VIIIa_Page_2153.jpg

Hyundai on list but never inspected by cadaver/blood dogs.

Am I correct in thinking it was in a garage where it was valeted?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2577 on: April 24, 2017, 02:04:20 PM »
So they asked him to do stuff, and then ignored it if it didn't suit them.

As it happens they followed his recommendations, but as he was employed to advise they didn't have to. Why should they?
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Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2578 on: April 24, 2017, 02:36:00 PM »
As it happens they followed his recommendations, but as he was employed to advise they didn't have to. Why should they?

I don't quite follow.
Was he employed in a freelance capacity or was he a British police operative?
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Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2579 on: April 24, 2017, 02:46:54 PM »
Am I correct in thinking it was in a garage where it was valeted?

I've never heard that. AFAIK there wasn't any explanation as to why the Getz wasn't subjected to the cadaver dogs examination. That vehicle was substituted in the line up by ROB's hire car.
The Getz was examined by the Portuguese sniffer dogs - but they were trained to look for living scent not cadaver.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBERT-MURAT.htm#p5p1119
*snipped*
 The GNR dog team commanded by First-Sergeant A.Silva used four dogs to search for a trace of Madeleine Beth McCann in the entire property (inside and outside). The work results were negative.
- In the location were three vehicles - VW Transporter; Peugeot 205; Hyundai Getz - all of which were searched.
- The entire property was inspected by colleagues from Local Crime Section and Police Science Laboratory, with respective photographic reports made, with special focus on R.Murat's room and the vehicles


Murat had let his mother use the V/W for her information post. That vehicle was cleaned on 13/5/07, the day before the PJ swooped on Casa Liliana, according to MW's statement of 16/5/07

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MICHAELA_WALCZUCH.htm
1358 to 1360 Witness statement of Michaela Walzuch 2007.05.16

*snipped*
--- Asked, she states that on the 13 May last she was with Robert washing the VW Transporter at GALP-Lagos because it was dirty.