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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #75 on: May 24, 2018, 03:13:39 PM »
In my opinion you don't have a 'reasoned rationale'.
Well you’re wrong.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2018, 07:03:42 PM »
Well you’re wrong.

Unless you're prepared to prove me wrong that's just words.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2018, 07:26:34 PM »
Well you’re wrong.
Are you going for the "honest mistake" rational?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #78 on: May 24, 2018, 07:42:17 PM »
Unless you're prepared to prove me wrong that's just words.
Fine, I’ve told you I’m very happy to put forward my rationale if you will do me the courtesy of doing likewise, clearly you won’t so we’ll have to leave it there.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #79 on: May 24, 2018, 07:42:47 PM »
Atr you going for the "honest mistake" rational.
Of course, there is no other rational rationale.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #80 on: May 24, 2018, 08:17:37 PM »
Of course, there is no other rational rationale.
Did you understand the Prank Theory?  It still fits in with a prank to have something going on before Madeleine going missing as well.
I struggle with innocent mistake.  In the end there seems to be too many mistakes made by the Payne family as a group IMO.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #81 on: May 24, 2018, 08:45:32 PM »
Did you understand the Prank Theory?  It still fits in with a prank to have something going on before Madeleine going missing as well.
I struggle with innocent mistake.  In the end there seems to be too many mistakes made by the Payne family as a group IMO.

After her husband arrived at the apartment Fiona went for a run.

They arrived there around 15H45 and left at 18H15, and headed towards the tennis court until about 19H00. Immediately afterwards, the witness headed towards the apartment with her children, and her mother. Ten minutes later her husband David appeared. In the apartment her mother, helped by her husband David, bathed the children whilst the witness went jogging on the beach until around 20H00.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE.htm

I wonder what this was about?

I examined once again the declarations of Fiona Payne. In her depositions, she states that she went to the McCann apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she refers to.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm



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Offline Brietta

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #82 on: May 25, 2018, 12:09:24 AM »
Did you understand the Prank Theory?  It still fits in with a prank to have something going on before Madeleine going missing as well.
I struggle with innocent mistake.  In the end there seems to be too many mistakes made by the Payne family as a group IMO.

In my opinion it is preposterous that a 'prank' was played involving someone else's precious daughter.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #83 on: May 25, 2018, 12:49:59 AM »
In my opinion it is preposterous that a 'prank' was played involving someone else's precious daughter.
But then in a moment of bad decision making, drinking and what not, isn't it all the more reason not to let it out?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #84 on: May 25, 2018, 12:55:40 AM »
After her husband arrived at the apartment Fiona went for a run.

They arrived there around 15H45 and left at 18H15, and headed towards the tennis court until about 19H00. Immediately afterwards, the witness headed towards the apartment with her children, and her mother. Ten minutes later her husband David appeared. In the apartment her mother, helped by her husband David, bathed the children whilst the witness went jogging on the beach until around 20H00.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE.htm

I wonder what this was about?

I examined once again the declarations of Fiona Payne. In her depositions, she states that she went to the McCann apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she refers to.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm
So that put David Payne back in his apartment at 10 past 7.  Fiona is out for the best part of an hour.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #85 on: May 25, 2018, 01:18:42 AM »
But then in a moment of bad decision making, drinking and what not, isn't it all the more reason not to let it out?

Sorry Robitty ... I'm not getting what you're saying there.



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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #86 on: May 25, 2018, 07:00:15 AM »
Sorry Robitty ... I'm not getting what you're saying there.
A person can make a bad decision, and that is more likely to happen if they have been drinking, and if the decision backfires will the person own up?
Prince William played a prank on Harry on the day of his wedding.  It backfired but enough people knew who was behind the prank.
https://youtu.be/2NPe2DY9Kqw

I think in many cases if a prank backfired no one would take the responsibility for it.  I keep thinking that the Tapas members involved in the theoretical prank could well have owned up, on the condition it is kept confidential.  We would then end up with SY saying, like Rowley did, words to the effect that no matter how Madeleine left the apartment, she was [then] abducted"
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #87 on: May 25, 2018, 09:38:17 AM »
Dianne Webster's testimony appears absolutely useless as far a defining the time she watched the man play tennis on the Thursday.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm
"4078    ”If, I’m just, it seemed to be clearer in your mind than some other things, you said you can remember standing there and the courts were lower and you can remember standing watching.”

 Reply    ”Well yeah I can remember err I can remember watching the men playing tennis but I can’t put a day on it, I can’t, I can’t remember err I don’t know if it was that, I don’t think it was that night I think it might be another night.”"
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #88 on: May 25, 2018, 10:07:07 AM »
Dianne Webster's testimony appears absolutely useless as far a defining the time she watched the man play tennis on the Thursday.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER-2.htm
"4078    ”If, I’m just, it seemed to be clearer in your mind than some other things, you said you can remember standing there and the courts were lower and you can remember standing watching.”

 Reply    ”Well yeah I can remember err I can remember watching the men playing tennis but I can’t put a day on it, I can’t, I can’t remember err I don’t know if it was that, I don’t think it was that night I think it might be another night.”"

She was quite clear (although incorrect) in her 4th May statement;

Concerning the day yesterday, she went to the beach with the children, her son-in-law and her daughter. They arrived there at around 3.45pm and left at around 6.15pm to go to the tennis courts where she stayed until 7pm. The informant then went to the apartment with the small children and ten minutes later, her son-in-law, David, joined them. With her son-in-law's help, they bathed the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER.htm
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Offline Brietta

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #89 on: May 25, 2018, 10:23:06 AM »
A person can make a bad decision, and that is more likely to happen if they have been drinking, and if the decision backfires will the person own up?
Prince William played a prank on Harry on the day of his wedding.  It backfired but enough people knew who was behind the prank.
https://youtu.be/2NPe2DY9Kqw

I think in many cases if a prank backfired no one would take the responsibility for it.  I keep thinking that the Tapas members involved in the theoretical prank could well have owned up, on the condition it is kept confidential.  We would then end up with SY saying, like Rowley did, words to the effect that no matter how Madeleine left the apartment, she was [then] abducted"

I think the key word there is "theoretical".  In my opinion such a fantasy is the stuff of nonsense and in a theatre where so much nonsense becomes factoid - cremation and old British ex pat spring immediately to mind - is best left unsaid. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....