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Offline kizzy

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2018, 10:49:59 AM »
gmccan told fiona at tennis km was getting the children bathed and ready for bed

So why did payne have to go check in the first place - disturbing her

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #91 on: May 25, 2018, 11:07:00 AM »
gmccan told fiona at tennis km was getting the children bathed and ready for bed

So why did payne have to go check in the first place - disturbing her
Wasn't he asked to do so?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #92 on: May 25, 2018, 11:56:35 AM »
She was quite clear (although incorrect) in her 4th May statement;

Concerning the day yesterday, she went to the beach with the children, her son-in-law and her daughter. They arrived there at around 3.45pm and left at around 6.15pm to go to the tennis courts where she stayed until 7pm. The informant then went to the apartment with the small children and ten minutes later, her son-in-law, David, joined them. With her son-in-law's help, they bathed the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DIANE-WEBSTER.htm
That sounds very much like what Fiona said in her rogatory. 
Fiona on the 4th says:
"Yesterday they slightly altered their routine, they went to the beach with the children and her mother Dianne. They arrived there around 15H45 and left at 18H15, and headed towards the tennis court until about 19H00. Immediately afterwards, the witness headed towards the apartment with her children, and her mother. Ten minutes later her husband David appeared. In the apartment her mother, helped by her husband David, bathed the children whilst the witness went jogging on the beach until around 20H00. Afterwards, she returned to the apartment and got ready. She left around 20H45, accompanied by David and her mother, in order to meet the rest of the group in the Tapas restaurant."

This is what Dianne says on the 4th May:
"Concerning the day yesterday, she went to the beach with the children, her son-in-law and her daughter. They arrived there at around 3.45pm and left at around 6.15pm to go to the tennis courts where she stayed until 7pm. The informant then went to the apartment with the small children and ten minutes later, her son-in-law, David, joined them. With her son-in-law's help, they bathed the children.
They left the apartment at around 8.45 and accompanied by her son-in-law and her daughter, they went to join the rest of the group at the "TAPAS" restaurant."

That is rather too much similarity really.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2018, 12:16:46 PM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline kizzy

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #93 on: May 25, 2018, 12:44:41 PM »
Wasn't he asked to do so?

Well if you think he was .....why

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #94 on: May 25, 2018, 12:50:30 PM »
Well if you think he was .....why
I've no idea.  Gerry asked him to pop in and see her on his way back to pick up some kit.  To check she was OK?  To let her know Gerry was still on the court?  Why do you think?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #95 on: May 25, 2018, 01:18:41 PM »
I've no idea.  Gerry asked him to pop in and see her on his way back to pick up some kit.  To check she was OK?  To let her know Gerry was still on the court?  Why do you think?

Surly she would have known were he was.

He could have been worried about something.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #96 on: May 25, 2018, 01:25:22 PM »
Surly she would have known were he was.

He could have been worried about something.
One thing I'm pretty sure of is that we will never know and therefore IMO it's pointless spending any energy worrying about it, or trying to "research" the answer.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #97 on: May 25, 2018, 02:58:43 PM »
One thing I'm pretty sure of is that we will never know and therefore IMO it's pointless spending any energy worrying about it, or trying to "research" the answer.

That may well be the whole kit and caboodle of the case,doesn't stop the discussion though.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #98 on: May 25, 2018, 03:28:03 PM »
That may well be the whole kit and caboodle of the case,doesn't stop the discussion though.
clearly not.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #99 on: May 25, 2018, 04:16:55 PM »
In my opinion you don't have a 'reasoned rationale'.
If you read through my replies to this thread again you will see that I have already given my rationale quite explicitly for my conclusion.  It is only my opinion and I can’t prove I’m right, but similarly neither can anyone else prove Fiona deliberately lied, nor IMO can they give any plausible rationale whatsoever for why she would lie about this matter.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2018, 06:14:23 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #100 on: May 25, 2018, 06:06:38 PM »
I think the key word there is "theoretical".  In my opinion such a fantasy is the stuff of nonsense and in a theatre where so much nonsense becomes factoid - cremation and old British ex pat spring immediately to mind - is best left unsaid.
your references are lost on me at the moment.  Cremation could be about the coffin in the church.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #101 on: May 25, 2018, 06:10:27 PM »
One thing I'm pretty sure of is that we will never know and therefore IMO it's pointless spending any energy worrying about it, or trying to "research" the answer.
In all the interviews made over the 11 years has the visit to the apartment by David Payne ever been raised?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #102 on: May 25, 2018, 06:16:26 PM »
I think the key word there is "theoretical".  In my opinion such a fantasy is the stuff of nonsense and in a theatre where so much nonsense becomes factoid - cremation and old British ex pat spring immediately to mind - is best left unsaid.
You can't deny the words of Mark Rowley though.  That was no fantasy!  "However Madeleine left the apartment, she was abducted".
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Offline Brietta

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2018, 06:18:45 PM »
your references are lost on me at the moment.  Cremation could be about the coffin in the church.

LOL ... We'v ... you are going to be a quiz show star doing all this deduction.  Just as you 'got' the 'whatever' abbreviation you worked out mine.

Indeed, it was in reference to the coffin in the church suggestion.  Now how to work that into an on topic post on this thread probably isn't possible making two mods setting a bad example (again) sorry for leading you astray.
My bad!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2018, 06:27:22 PM »
LOL ... We'v ... you are going to be a quiz show star doing all this deduction.  Just as you 'got' the 'whatever' abbreviation you worked out mine.

Indeed, it was in reference to the coffin in the church suggestion.  Now how to work that into an on topic post on this thread probably isn't possible making two mods setting a bad example (again) sorry for leading you astray.
My bad!
Part of it has been my attempt to be the "Mastermind" on the McCann case.  But we all have our main strengths on the case.  Misty's would be Robert Murat - I don't study him.  G-unit's seems to be the tennis timeline - I haven't studied that.
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