Mark Warner Holidays

[Vertigo Swirl]

I seem to remember something about just addressing an envelope to 'Kate & Gerry, Rothley' and it would get there, though perhaps that only worked if it was stuffed with money. 

Well best add a tenner just to make sure they get it then.

[jassi]

Well best add a tenner just to make sure they get it then.

I could certainly  include a few  pound coins from about 2000 that I found down the back of the sofa.

[Robittybob1]

I could certainly  include a few  pound coins from about 2000 that I found down the back of the sofa.

Men's trouser pockets are poorly designed.

[G-Unit]

Men's trouser pockets are poorly designed.

I used to collect mone every time I drove the car after my husband or son. Men's pockets are fine.

[sadie]

Not relatively safe enough for the McCanns to lock the doors during the day to safe guard valuables.

So the 'it felt safe' statement doesn't quite match up with their behaviour.

They locked the doors when they went away from Ocean Club as everyone does IMO. 

Do you have a cite for your accusation that they locked the doors, in the day, when they were around the pool, on the tennis courts, on close hotel premises etc.?

[sadie]

Perhaps you can explain why someone feels unsafe enough to lock their premises in daylight but not at night?

Simples.

They locked the doors when they were properly away, out of sight of 5A ... and that happened always to be during daylight hours IMO.

At night, the group could see the only entrance that was not locked.  It was only 50 metres away, with the door closed and the area was illuminated.....

Oh, and as part of the adjacent apart/ hotel  it felt like being in their back garden IMO.

Simples

[sadie]

The tennis courts, where by all accounts they seemed to spend much of their time, is in the same vicinity as the Tapas bar, so why lock their doors ?

Did they lock their back door when playing tennis?

[Robittybob1]

Did they lock their back door when playing tennis?

The McCanns describe locking it, from the inside and then one leaving by the front door.

[sadie]

The McCanns describe locking it, from the inside and then one leaving by the front door.

Yes, BUT was that when they played tennis and swam etc.  ... or was it when they went further a field?

Actually, weighing it all up,
.... the apartment was out of sight from about 99% of the tennis courts, so it makes sense that they might lock it when they played tennis.  When they were playing tennis, sightwise it was like being away from Ocean Club; no view of the apartment.

I bet they left the patio door open when relaxing by the pool though.   Anyone able to prove the exact position ?

[Sunny]

Yes, BUT was that when they played tennis and swam etc.  ... or was it when they went further a field?

Actually, weighing it all up,
.... the apartment was out of sight from about 99% of the tennis courts, so it makes sense that they might lock it when they played tennis.  When they were playing tennis, sightwise it was like being away from Ocean Club; no view of the apartment.

I bet they left the patio door open when relaxing by the pool though.   Anyone able to prove the exact position ?

Sadie I see you like cites so why not respond to my request for one over on the calpol thread.

I agree Sadie we don't want myths flying around so with this in mind pleases could you provide a cite where the group would be able to see the door from the restaurant.   I have had a brief look and see how they could see the actual door only part of the outside of 5a. Otherwise why not amend your post as I did.

By the way thanks again for putting me right regarding Cat.

It was over here.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9310.msg473829#msg473829

Also I can't recall any instances of the couple swimming. As far as I can recall there was a visit to the pool on the first day and the last day if different please could you provide a cite for this?

[G-Unit]

Sadie I see you like cites so why not respond to my request for one over on the calpol thread.

I agree Sadie we don't want myths flying around so with this in mind pleases could you provide a cite where the group would be able to see the door from the restaurant.   I have had a brief look and see how they could see the actual door only part of the outside of 5a. Otherwise why not amend your post as I did.

By the way thanks again for putting me right regarding Cat.

It was over here.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9310.msg473829#msg473829

Also I can't recall any instances of the couple swimming. As far as I can recall there was a visit to the pool on the first day and the last day if different please could you provide a cite for this?

The group didn't have a good view of the patio door from the table, and even if they did, there's no way their eyes were glued to it. They were busy chatting and eating, not staring at the McCann's apartment.

1578 'And from where you were sat, what was your view like of the apartments''
 Reply 'Erm well yeah I could see, I mean I could see the patio doors of ours and Gerry and Kates'.

1578 'How much of the patio doors''
 Reply 'Erm well kind of the top half really'.

1578 'Okay'.
 Reply "Yeah you know, I didn't get a full you know, you couldn't get a full view sort of right in, cos there were bushes, there were bushes and stuff there, erm'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

[Sunny]

Perhaps Sadie will provide a cite to prove we are wrong G-Unit.

[Robittybob1]

Perhaps Sadie will provide a cite to prove we are wrong G-Unit.

What are you claiming in the first place?

[G-Unit]

What are you claiming in the first place?

I don't agree tha the group had a good view of the McCann patio or that it was illuminated.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't agree tha the group had a good view of the McCann patio or that it was illuminated.

They were there, you weren’t.