Mark Warner Holidays

[Miss Taken Identity]

IN YOUR OPINION.  MAKE THAT CLEAR IN FUTURE.

post amended    WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING. NO ONE DIED AS A RESULT OF MY ERROR.

[faithlilly]

It seems they agreed to implement their own listening service in Luz. They claimed to have improved on the Mark Warner version, but they didn't in my opinion. Those who misread the brochure made their own arrangements and didn't participate in the agreed scheme.  Some might have seen this as a bit of a betrayal, but not this group of firm friends. The others happily ran up and down the road to check on their children while those who contributed to the situation sat on their behinds and watched. Or did they?

On Wednesday night, 2 May 2007, as well as he and his wife, he thinks that DP also went to his apartment to confirm that his children were well, not having reported to him any abnormal situation with the children.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

With this and his claim that DP visited Kate on the 3rd, Gerry certainly seems hellbent on including him in the narrative even though none of his claims appear in DP’s first statement. Makes you wonder why ? Was DP threatening to go ‘off message’ ? Was he one of the friends who wanted to, allegedly, change his statement ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Read the words -'as far as we know'

And as far as we know you are quite wrong.

[G-Unit]

With this and his claim that DP visited Kate on the 3rd, Gerry certainly seems hellbent on including him in the narrative even though none of his claims appear in DP’s first statement. Makes you wonder why ? Was DP threatening to go ‘off message’ ? Was he one of the friends who wanted to, allegedly, change his statement ?

Apparently the Paynes and McCanns often visited each other, according to Gerry, but Fiona denies that

Asked, he stated that besides her own apartment MADELEINE only went to the apartment of DP and FP, since it was common that they frequented each others' apartments.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

 Erm, I'm trying to think if Kate and Gerry did and I can't recall. I mean, on the whole, we didn't see a lot of them until the evening, we didn't see a lot of the kids.......

to be honest I never went into Kate and Gerry's apartment before the night, erm, on Thursday'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

[Brietta]

With this and his claim that DP visited Kate on the 3rd, Gerry certainly seems hellbent on including him in the narrative even though none of his claims appear in DP’s first statement. Makes you wonder why ? Was DP threatening to go ‘off message’ ? Was he one of the friends who wanted to, allegedly, change his statement ?

Snip
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, denied that any of the friends had officially approached the Portuguese police through their lawyers but said that they were happy to be reinterviewed by police if it resolved any apparent inconsistencies and hastened the McCanns being cleared.

"Contrary to a report in the Spanish press, and after consultation amongst Gerry and Kate McCann's friends, I can deny that any approach has been made by their lawyers asking to amend or change the witness statement of any of them," he said.

"Kate and Gerry's friends, who were with them on May 3, have consistently told the truth and remain happy, indeed they are keen, to be reinterviewed by the police if necessary to clarify any inconsistencies in the statements that the police may think they have identified.

"The friends believe that if such interviews or reinterviews take place it can only lead to Gerry and Kate being eliminated from the inquiry swiftly."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568706/Madeleine-Tapas-Two-want-to-change-story.html



There was absolutely no inference from any of the McCann friends of a desire to change the statements.  The proof of this is that no-one did so either prior to or after making rogatory statements to the police in England.

A perfect occasion to make any such alleged change, don't you think?

[faithlilly]

Snip
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, denied that any of the friends had officially approached the Portuguese police through their lawyers but said that they were happy to be reinterviewed by police if it resolved any apparent inconsistencies and hastened the McCanns being cleared.

"Contrary to a report in the Spanish press, and after consultation amongst Gerry and Kate McCann's friends, I can deny that any approach has been made by their lawyers asking to amend or change the witness statement of any of them," he said.

"Kate and Gerry's friends, who were with them on May 3, have consistently told the truth and remain happy, indeed they are keen, to be reinterviewed by the police if necessary to clarify any inconsistencies in the statements that the police may think they have identified.

"The friends believe that if such interviews or reinterviews take place it can only lead to Gerry and Kate being eliminated from the inquiry swiftly."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568706/Madeleine-Tapas-Two-want-to-change-story.html



There was absolutely no inference from any of the McCann friends of a desire to change the statements.  The proof of this is that no-one did so either prior to or after making rogatory statements to the police in England.

A perfect occasion to make any such alleged change, don't you think?

To quote Mandy Rice-Davis, he would say that, wouldn’t he.

As to the fact that no one changed their statements perhaps they were persuaded at the Rothley Hotel meeting not to ?

[Brietta]

Apparently the Paynes and McCanns often visited each other, according to Gerry, but Fiona denies that

Asked, he stated that besides her own apartment MADELEINE only went to the apartment of DP and FP, since it was common that they frequented each others' apartments.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

 Erm, I'm trying to think if Kate and Gerry did and I can't recall. I mean, on the whole, we didn't see a lot of them until the evening, we didn't see a lot of the kids.......

to be honest I never went into Kate and Gerry's apartment before the night, erm, on Thursday'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

Snip
She clearly remembers seeing the girl accompanied by her siblings and mother leave their apartment (5 A) and walk to the stairs leading to the floor above. She was very close to them at a distance of about 1 metre, observing their movements for a few moments because she was charmed by them. Madeleine led the way with a plate (perhaps plastic) in her hand bearing a piece of bread. As regards the clothes she was wearing she only remembers a skirt but cannot recall its description. She noted, because she thought them nice, the type of shoes she was wearing, tennis shoes, light in colour she thinks, which had little lights along the soles, which lit up each time she stepped on the ground. Her siblings followed behind her, wearing the same king of shoes and each holding a piece of bread in their hands, their mother followed behind them without holding their hands. She seems to remember that the mother was also carrying a plate. Moments afterwards, perhaps the time it took to close the apartment door, the father came out and also headed to the apartment upstairs. When asked, she does not remember whether the father pulled the door closed or locked it with a key.

After she chatted to her mother about there being many children in the apartments, she had the idea that the family in 5H were friends of Madeleine's family who were staying in 5 A.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FATIMA_ESPADA.htm

[faithlilly]

Apparently the Paynes and McCanns often visited each other, according to Gerry, but Fiona denies that

Asked, he stated that besides her own apartment MADELEINE only went to the apartment of DP and FP, since it was common that they frequented each others' apartments.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

 Erm, I'm trying to think if Kate and Gerry did and I can't recall. I mean, on the whole, we didn't see a lot of them until the evening, we didn't see a lot of the kids.......

to be honest I never went into Kate and Gerry's apartment before the night, erm, on Thursday'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

As the Payne’s and the McCanns seemed to be the closest couple in the group doesn’t it seem rather odd that neither of them ever visited their friend’s apartment before Thursday ?

[Brietta]

To quote Mandy Rice-Davis, he would say that, wouldn’t he.

As to the fact that no one changed their statements perhaps they were persuaded at the Rothley Hotel meeting not to ?

Your post is not only nonsense ... it is libellous innuendo.

[faithlilly]

Snip
She clearly remembers seeing the girl accompanied by her siblings and mother leave their apartment (5 A) and walk to the stairs leading to the floor above. She was very close to them at a distance of about 1 metre, observing their movements for a few moments because she was charmed by them. Madeleine led the way with a plate (perhaps plastic) in her hand bearing a piece of bread. As regards the clothes she was wearing she only remembers a skirt but cannot recall its description. She noted, because she thought them nice, the type of shoes she was wearing, tennis shoes, light in colour she thinks, which had little lights along the soles, which lit up each time she stepped on the ground. Her siblings followed behind her, wearing the same king of shoes and each holding a piece of bread in their hands, their mother followed behind them without holding their hands. She seems to remember that the mother was also carrying a plate. Moments afterwards, perhaps the time it took to close the apartment door, the father came out and also headed to the apartment upstairs. When asked, she does not remember whether the father pulled the door closed or locked it with a key.

After she chatted to her mother about there being many children in the apartments, she had the idea that the family in 5H were friends of Madeleine's family who were staying in 5 A.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FATIMA_ESPADA.htm

And ?

[Brietta]

And ?

And what  ?

[G-Unit]

Snip
She clearly remembers seeing the girl accompanied by her siblings and mother leave their apartment (5 A) and walk to the stairs leading to the floor above. She was very close to them at a distance of about 1 metre, observing their movements for a few moments because she was charmed by them. Madeleine led the way with a plate (perhaps plastic) in her hand bearing a piece of bread. As regards the clothes she was wearing she only remembers a skirt but cannot recall its description. She noted, because she thought them nice, the type of shoes she was wearing, tennis shoes, light in colour she thinks, which had little lights along the soles, which lit up each time she stepped on the ground. Her siblings followed behind her, wearing the same king of shoes and each holding a piece of bread in their hands, their mother followed behind them without holding their hands. She seems to remember that the mother was also carrying a plate. Moments afterwards, perhaps the time it took to close the apartment door, the father came out and also headed to the apartment upstairs. When asked, she does not remember whether the father pulled the door closed or locked it with a key.

After she chatted to her mother about there being many children in the apartments, she had the idea that the family in 5H were friends of Madeleine's family who were staying in 5 A.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FATIMA_ESPADA.htm

Yes, Sunday lunchtime seems to be the only agreed visit. That hardly fulfills Gerry's testimony that it was 'common' for them to visit each other's apartments. One swallow

[Brietta]

Yes, Sunday lunchtime seems to be the only agreed visit. That hardly fulfills Gerry's testimony that it was 'common' for them to visit each other's apartments. One swallow

In my opinion ... neither do your opinionated assumptions regarding a few days holiday 'a summer make'.

[faithlilly]

In my opinion ... neither do your opinionated assumptions regarding a few days holiday 'a summer make'.

But it’s not an assumption. G-Unit’s post is backed by the friends own statements.

[Robittybob1]

But it’s not an assumption. G-Unit’s post is backed by the friends own statements.

Is one person'd statement more valuable than another?  You seem to be implying it is.