Pro bono or Conditional Fee Arrangement (CFA)?

[Robittybob1]

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There is no record of it.  Nor is there any record of Mr and Mrs Moyes who were in the apartment above Mrs fenn being interviewed either.
Or the people who left apartment 5J on May 4th.  Does anyone even know who they were, where they went or where they are now?



Is it a fact that people left 5J on 4th May? I think a cite could be required.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9683.msg469449#msg469449

Posted in wrong thread IMO.

[ShiningInLuz]

Posted in wrong thread IMO.

Brietta requested an occasion where she failed to provide a requested cite.

She got it.

[Brietta]

Brietta requested an occasion where she failed to provide a requested cite.

She got it.

Actually ... if you check back ... you may observe that I did not receive the cite I have been requesting 

[ShiningInLuz]

Actually ... if you check back ... you may observe that I did not receive the cite I have been requesting 

You requested an instance where YOU were asked to provide a cite, and did not.

Provide, not receive.

You got such an instance.

[Mr Gray]

Ed Smethurst was paid by Kennedy, Isabel Duarte and Claudia Nogueira was paid by the fund, Adam Tudor and Isabel Hudson were working for CR on a retainer paid either by a benefactor or the fund and/or unsuccessful defendants. There is absolutely no evidence that any legal services where given from the kindness of any these peopke’s hearts and to claim there was is disingenuous at best.

There is evidence that Adam Tudor of carter ruck provided services free if charge and I have posted it

[G-Unit]

Actually ... if you check back ... you may observe that I did not receive the cite I have been requesting 

Neither did I.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Neither did I.

It’s a Mexican standoff! 

[G-Unit]

From Kate's book ...
Not only had I never expected to get to know so many lawyers, I didn’t expect to like quite so many of them. Ed Smethurst, Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and Isabel Duarte in particular have laboured faithfully out of the goodness of their hearts, on Madeleine’s behalf and ours, regardless of the day or the hour. Their priceless expertise and commitment has extended to the completion of this book. Cláudia Nogueira from LIFT Consulting has also been a vital source of knowledge and advice and a very good friend.

Also from Kate's book ...
Adam Tudor and his colleague Isabel Hudson continue to do a vast amount of work for us, without payment, most of it quietly, behind the scenes.
They have given us invaluable advice, for example, in our attempts to deal with the widespread defamatory
material circulating on the internet.

Davel has repeatedly claimed that Carter-Ruck worked pro bono for the McCanns in their action against Express Newspapers, but none of the evidence supports his claim.

[Mr Gray]

Carter-Ruck didn't work pro bono.

CR did some work pro bono.....no one has suggested they never received any payment whatsoever

[Mr Gray]

Davel has repeatedly claimed that Carter-Ruck worked pro bono for the McCanns in their action against Express Newspapers, but none of the evidence supports his claim.

No one knows if awrit was issued in this case...yet you have claimed as afact it was and provided no cite...no one knows if ther was a CF in palce...but you have claimed as afact there was ad provided no cite..

I believe its quite possible that early work in the express case was carried out free of charge to teh mccanns because CR knew they had such a solid case..
we now know taht CR dod do pro bono work for the mccanns which you have continually denied

[slartibartfast]

CR did some work pro bono.....no one has suggested they never received any payment whatsoever

They were on a retainer as my post showed. Whether Kate knew this or not is beside the point.

[Mr Gray]

They were on a retainer as my post showed. Whether Kate knew this or not is beside the point.

Retainers do not always involve payment...as my cite has shown

[slartibartfast]

Retainers do not always involve payment...as my cite has shown

The retainer agreement will layout the charges payable and terms of engagement. To show CR we’re acting Pro Bono as you claim, you will need to produce evidence which you have thus far failed to do.

[Mr Gray]

The retainer agreement will layout the charges payable and terms of engagement. To show CR we’re acting Pro Bono as you claim, you will need to produce evidence which you have thus far failed to do.

I have produced evidence...Kates statement

[Vertigo Swirl]

Davel is owed no apologies at all in my opinion. He has repeatedly claimed that Carter-Ruck worked pro bono for the McCanns in their action against Express Newspapers, but none of the evidence supports his claim.

Did the McCanns pay C-R for their work against Express newspapers?  Would they have had to pay them if they’d lost the case?