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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2018, 05:20:10 PM »
I take it you are not in the medical fraternity? because they always offer up reasoning for their judgements.  That is why I am asking why she didn't offer up her explanation of her judgement.

IMO Kate made an accusation against a imaginary stranger abductor.

Cite please. you know what Kate knows?
Do you understand the phrase “as far as I know”? 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2018, 05:21:21 PM »
She raised the possibility not us, therefore she must believe it was possible. I have looked at various substances and methods and in my opinion it wasn't possible.
It’s not possible to sedate a child in such a situation?  OK, you clearly know best.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2018, 05:29:39 PM »
It’s not possible to sedate a child in such a situation?  OK, you clearly know best.

If anyone can suggest a method or substance which makes sense I'm willing to listen. As yet I haven't seen any.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2018, 05:32:07 PM »
If anyone can suggest a method or substance which makes sense I'm willing to listen. As yet I haven't seen any.
So we can discount sedation entirely from the equation then. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2018, 07:06:07 PM »
So we can discount sedation entirely from the equation then.

Madeleine's grandmother bought it;

“There is no way they carried her out of there without her awakening.

“If she was taken when she was sleeping by somebody she did not know, she would have screamed the place down.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1564727/Madeleine-McCann-drugged-says-grandmother.html
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2018, 07:11:59 PM »
Madeleine's grandmother bought it;

“There is no way they carried her out of there without her awakening.

“If she was taken when she was sleeping by somebody she did not know, she would have screamed the place down.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1564727/Madeleine-McCann-drugged-says-grandmother.html
But you know Madeleine couldn’t have been sedated so clearly she is wrong.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2018, 07:50:07 PM »
But you know Madeleine couldn’t have been sedated so clearly she is wrong.
That post must be factually wrong  Please amend it.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2018, 07:53:02 PM »
Do you understand the phrase “as far as I know”? 

The questions being raised are: where in the tight time line, they created, was this drugging to occur, and how soon after administering the drug was this abduction to take place?

If the children were not drugged (and there is no evidence), one wonders why KATE would suggest it and not discuss the likelihood of it taking place- while watching them patio doors- well the top corner of one.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2018, 08:11:54 PM »
The questions being raised are: where in the tight time line, they created, was this drugging to occur, and how soon after administering the drug was this abduction to take place?

If the children were not drugged (and there is no evidence), one wonders why KATE would suggest it and not discuss the likelihood of it taking place- while watching them patio doors- well the top corner of one.
Why did Kate suggest it?  Well I don’t know because I’m not Kate, but maybe because her children continued to sleep through the disturbance and maybe because she was convinced that a bad person had been in their bedroom and done bad things to her children and maybe because she was thinking more as a mother than as a trained anaesthetist.  Who knows? 
« Last Edit: August 02, 2018, 01:46:28 PM by John »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2018, 08:14:23 PM »
That post must be factually wrong  Please amend it.
Why?  The serious researcher on the forum has claimed there is no way a child could have been sedated in such a scenario, are we to question her research?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2018, 08:28:52 PM »
But you know Madeleine couldn’t have been sedated so clearly she is wrong.

I don't know any such thing. I know that I haven't seen an explanation of how and with what it could have been done which convinces me.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2018, 08:32:38 PM »
Why?  The serious researcher on the forum has claimed there is no way a child could have been sedated in such a scenario, are we to question her research?
Does that mean you can say "But you know Madeleine couldn’t have been sedated so clearly she is wrong."?

Who is "you"  and who is "she"?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2018, 08:33:28 PM »
I don't know any such thing. I know that I haven't seen an explanation of how and with what it could have been done which convinces me.
Then as per your thinking on the abduction (no explanation of how it could have happened which convinces you) you must just as surely dismiss it as a possibility, no?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2018, 08:34:10 PM »
Does that mean you can say "But you know Madeleine couldn’t have been sedated so clearly she is wrong."?

Who is "you"  and who is "she"?
I don’t know - who are you?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2018, 08:35:21 PM »
Then as per your thinking on the abduction (no explanation of how it could have happened which convinces you) you must just as surely dismiss it as a possibility, no?
Just an opinion in the end.
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