Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[Robittybob1]

That is irrelevant as we do not know what time this assumed disappearance,  from her bed by a stranger, took place.

There are no independent witnesses from when they left the creché to when Kate 'discovered' missing daughter. That is a lot of hours!

It also opens up the whole- was she abducted from the bed claims. If she wandered and was found, would she scream if she thought someone was going to help her? or if she knew the person. Only two scenarios I can think of

Arlindo suggests there was a disturbance, which usually involves sound.  This is something I haven't looked into as yet.  "A few minutes later, when it was around 21H20, he heard some clamour, which made him leave toward the restaurant, a few meters away, and was then informed that a child had disappeared."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ARLINDO-PELEGA.htm
Definitely a sound.

[G-Unit]

Did Kate ever say at any point to anyone ever that she felt her "babie's" (sic) lives hung in the balance?  Or were in severe jeopardy?  Or that they were in a comatose state?

Checking them for signs of life?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Checking them for signs of life?

Did she find any?

[Robittybob1]

Did she find any?

She was a doctor!  Sure did.

[G-Unit]

Did she find any?

She checked for breathing and she found breathing.

@Rob. I'm not even trained in first aid, but I could check for breathing.

[Robittybob1]

She checked for breathing and she found breathing.

@Rob. I'm not even trained in first aid, but I could check for breathing.

So could I. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

She checked for breathing and she found breathing.

@Rob. I'm not even trained in first aid, but I could check for breathing.

If they had been in a coma breathing would likely have been laboured - was it?  No.  Being a doctor she was able to judge that their lives did not “hang in the balance”, IMO. 

[G-Unit]

If they had been in a coma breathing would likely have been laboured - was it?  No.  Being a doctor she was able to judge that their lives did not “hang in the balance”, IMO.

Is that a medical fact or your opinion?

I don't believe that any doctor who suspects sedation can decide that the sedation isn't life-threatening simply by checking that the patient is breathing.

[Mr Gray]

Is that a medical fact or your opinion?

I don't believe that any doctor who suspects sedation can decide that the sedation isn't life-threatening simply by checking that the patient is breathing.

,by placing her hand on the childs abck it would be clear if the rate and depth of breathing was normal and hence no cause for concern....sedation is not general anaesthesia

[barrier]

,by placing her hand on the childs abck it would be clear if the rate and depth of breathing was normal and hence no cause for concern....sedation is not general anaesthesia

I would have thought if some kind of sedation was possible and not knowing what was possibly administered then the best place would have been an hospital.

[Mr Gray]

I would have thought if some kind of sedation was possible and not knowing what was possibly administered then the best place would have been an hospital.

but you are not a doctor and kate is

[Vertigo Swirl]

Is that a medical fact or your opinion?

I don't believe that any doctor who suspects sedation can decide that the sedation isn't life-threatening simply by checking that the patient is breathing.

Well, iirc you don’t believe the children were sedated anyway despite not being a doctor yourself, so if you can decide that third hand years later....

[barrier]

but you are not a doctor and kate is

And of course there was medical equipment to hand should things have taken a turn for the worse.

[Mr Gray]

And of course there was medical equipment to hand should things have taken a turn for the worse.

kate was clear the twins were not in danger...why would things take a turn for the worse...waht would cause taht

[G-Unit]

,by placing her hand on the childs abck it would be clear if the rate and depth of breathing was normal and hence no cause for concern....sedation is not general anaesthesia

So her only evidence for suggesting sedation was that they didn't wake up.