Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[Mr Gray]

Some original posts have been removed but this is still as a quote "Quote from: Davel on Today at 06:18:17 PM
I have provided a detailed explanation as to why a child would sleep for 8 hrs after a single dose of ketamine....I would think most posters understand it...the fact you don't is your problem"

So that reference to ketamine is not from personal experience.  Have I understood that correctly?

It's from my personal knowledge of how sedatives work based on my extensive experience with sedatives

[Mr Gray]

OK but is it true none of that extensive experience is with ketamine?
It was the fact I asked a multi choice question and you didn't answer the question.

If you read my posts I've answered your question several times

[Mr Gray]

You made a specific claim. If it is true you will be able to provide a cite as per forum rules.

What claim was that

[John]

I don't need to provide a cite for personal experience

Personal experience does not constitute an acceptable alternative to providing a proper cite.  If any member wishes to offer a professional opinion as an alternative to providing a recognised cite then they must reveal their credentials as I have done.

That said, it is neither a requirement or policy that any member must reveal their identity at any time although several members have chosen to do just that.

[Mr Gray]

Personal experience does not constitute an acceptable alternative to providing a proper cite.  If any member wishes to offer a professional opinion as an alternative to providing a recognised cite then they must reveal their credentials as I have done.

That said, it is neither a requirement or policy that any member must reveal their identity at any time although several members have chosen to do just that.

Next john...could you point out where I have not provided a cite... because I just don't see it

[Sunny]

Next john...could you point out where I have not provided a cite... because I just don't see it

Neither do I Davel (the cite I mean).

[Mr Gray]

I haven't been a party to the earlier discussion but I do think it reasonable to provide a cite where technical matters are being debated.

I have provided cites....so could someone point out where I have not...

[Mr Gray]

Neither do I Davel (the cite I mean).

You have made a claim I have not provided a cite...I deny that...it's now up to you to show where I have not provided a cite

[Robittybob1]

Next john...could you point out where I have not provided a cite... because I just don't see it

Start again I'd say.

You have made a claim I have not provided a cite...I deny that...it's now up to you to show where I have not provided a cite

Start afresh please.

[Mr Gray]

Start again I'd say.
Start afresh please.

Sunny had accused me of not proving a cite...under the rules she needs to provide the information

[Sunny]

Sunny had accused me of not proving a cite...under the rules she needs to provide the information

Earlier quote from you

I have provided a detailed explanation as to why a child would sleep for 8 hrs after a single dose of ketamine....I would think most posters understand it...the fact you don't is your problem

Again, cite please.

[Mr Gray]

Earlier quote from you

I have provided a detailed explanation as to why a child would sleep for 8 hrs after a single dose of ketamine....I would think most posters understand it...the fact you don't is your problem

Again, cite please.

You provided a cite showing the half life of ketamine...I provided a detailed explanation using the half life to show that there would be 12.5% of the initial dose even after 6 to 9  hours...it's the same principle as failing the breathyser the morning after....I think that is a reasonable explanation that most could follow

[faithlilly]

Simple way to stop the ‘disruption’, don’t have a cite then don’t make a claim.

[Robittybob1]

You provided a cite showing the half life of ketamine...I provided a detailed explanation using the half life to show that there would be 12.5% of the initial dose even after 6 to 9  hours...it's the same principle as failing the breathyser the morning after....I think that is a reasonable explanation that most could follow

So that was an opinion only then.

[Sunny]

I am actually here to discuss Davel, your "half life" of 12.5% wouldn't have the children in a sedated state or my cite was wrong when it said in 2.5 hours the chldren were rousable.