Author Topic: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?  (Read 83153 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #240 on: August 01, 2018, 11:23:12 PM »
So that was an opinion only then.

No it wasn't opinion...it was a logical explanation based on facts...I would have thought you would have understood it

Offline Erngath

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #241 on: August 01, 2018, 11:23:17 PM »
Simple way to stop the ‘disruption’, don’t have a cite then don’t make a claim.

Easier way is to say it's a rumour . 8((()*/
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #242 on: August 01, 2018, 11:24:54 PM »
I am actually here to discuss Davel, your "half life" of 12.5% wouldn't have the children in a sedated state or my cite was wrong when it said in 2.5 hours the chldren were rousable.


I never said 12.5 would produce a sedated state...but obviously it would still have some effect
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #243 on: August 01, 2018, 11:30:20 PM »
No it wasn't opinion...it was a logical explanation based on facts...I would have thought you would have understood it
"Logical explanation" would still be an opinion.  Maybe even though one worthy of acceptance.  I never say I don't care for other's opinions.  It gives us a chance to see where  they are coming from.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #244 on: August 01, 2018, 11:33:52 PM »
I never said 12.5 would produce a sedated state...but obviously it would still have some effect

Why "obviously" and what effect would it have. You say you are the knowledgeable one so you provide a cite. From what I have read and cited it would make very little difference.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #245 on: August 01, 2018, 11:35:15 PM »
It was a cite. Whether it passed your rigorous cite evaluation test is neither here nor there.
It is not a cite unless it validates the original claimed point IMO, and remember I'll be the one of the moderators moderating.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #246 on: August 01, 2018, 11:37:03 PM »
It was a cite. Whether it passed your rigorous cite evaluation test is neither here nor there.
Cites rarely pass the evaluation test of those demanding them, had you not noticed?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #247 on: August 01, 2018, 11:38:45 PM »
Cites rarely pass the evaluation test of those demanding them, had you not noticed?
I understand that as we all interpret what we read in different ways. 
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Offline John

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #248 on: August 01, 2018, 11:41:59 PM »
Could someone please explain the relevance of the ketamine intranasal spray?  Was such a product found at the apartment?
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Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #249 on: August 01, 2018, 11:44:15 PM »
No relevance actually John. Just a claim made by Davel as a possible way to sedate children for up to 8 hours.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #250 on: August 01, 2018, 11:47:32 PM »
Could someone please explain the relevance of the ketamine intranasal spray?  Was such a product found at the apartment?
Nope, Davel merely suggested it as a sedative that could have been used on children already sleeping against a claim from another poster that they had researched sedatives and could find nothing that would work for 8 hours or which could be effectively administered.  Davel volunteered an opinion and now is being badgered for cites for something that is of minor importance to in the scheme of things.  It’s all really ridiculous IMO.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #251 on: August 01, 2018, 11:48:39 PM »
Davel volunteered an opinion

But he didn't call it an opinion and still has not. Opinion would be fine.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #252 on: August 01, 2018, 11:49:02 PM »
Whether it wasn’t relevant to the original post is not the issue. You asked for a cite and were given one.
So as long as a cite is given, the relevance doesn’t really matter?  Well now we know!
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #253 on: August 01, 2018, 11:49:45 PM »
But he didn't call it an opinion and still has not. Opinion would be fine.
Can you please not truncate my posts, it’s bad form, thanks.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #254 on: August 01, 2018, 11:50:39 PM »
Can you please not truncate my posts, it’s bad form, thanks.

Apologies Vertigo Swirl I will post in full and bold the relevant parts then.
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