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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #330 on: August 02, 2018, 07:41:45 PM »
Speaking as a gran, I would like to think I know my grandchildren very well but I believe their parents are far more familiar with them
And Gerry's mother lived a distance away and would not spend nearly as much time with her grandchildren as fortunately I do.

Why do you think that the McCanns asked the FLOs if anything had been used to facilitate Madeleine’s abduction if they didn’t believe  she would have to have been sedated for it to be achieved ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Erngath

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #331 on: August 02, 2018, 07:51:51 PM »
Why do you think that the McCanns asked the FLOs if anything had been used to facilitate Madeleine’s abduction if they didn’t believe  she would have to have been sedated for it to be achieved ?

I've no doubt that they considered everything and anything which could have been a contributing factor in Madeleine's abduction. IMO.
Why not share their concerns with those who were there to help and support.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #332 on: August 02, 2018, 07:53:24 PM »
Why do you think that the McCanns asked the FLOs if anything had been used to facilitate Madeleine’s abduction if they didn’t believe  she would have to have been sedated for it to be achieved ?
Did the FLOs past that concern to the PJ?

I've no doubt that they considered everything and anything which could have been a contributing factor in Madeleine's abduction. IMO.
Why not share their concerns with those who were there to help and support.


Name one if you can.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #333 on: August 02, 2018, 07:54:21 PM »
Did the FLOs past that concern to the PJ?

Name one if you can.

Name who?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #334 on: August 02, 2018, 07:57:24 PM »
I've no doubt that they considered everything and anything which could have been a contributing factor in Madeleine's abduction. IMO.
Why not share their concerns with those who were there to help and support.

Indeed but you have to agree that her parents hadn’t ruled out the fact that Madeleine may have needed to be sedated in order to abduct her?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline John

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #335 on: August 02, 2018, 07:59:07 PM »
Thanks for the cite but it doesn’t say that Madeleine would have kicked up a fuss in the process of being abducted, only that she would currently (ie in 2007/08) be giving her abductor a hard time.  Now, if I was really childish I would keep on demanding a cite that confirms what John wrote, thankfully for all concerned I’m not.

Kate was making the point that Madeleine was not a push over.  But if you want to split hairs and engage in yet another marathon safari into the cite jungle so be it.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #336 on: August 02, 2018, 08:00:38 PM »
Name who?
Whoever falls into the category "Why not share their concerns with those who were there to help and support."
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Offline Sunny

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #337 on: August 02, 2018, 08:00:51 PM »
John wrote that Kate was adamant Madeleine would have kicked up a fuss on being picked up from her bed, not Gerry’s mum.  I have no doubt if Davel had written what John did and you’d asked for a cite you would have rejected it on the same grounds.

Where did my post go? From the cite given earlier. Not John it was Eileen McCann

Mrs McCann, who lives in Scotland and runs a pub, said: “I really believe they (whoever took her) gave her a drug.

“There is no way they carried her out of there without her awakening.

“If she was taken when she was sleeping by somebody she did not know, she would have screamed the place down.”
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Offline Erngath

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #338 on: August 02, 2018, 08:03:13 PM »
Indeed but you have to agree that her parents hadn’t ruled out the fact that Madeleine may have needed to be sedated in order to abduct her?

I have no idea of what they ruled in and ruled out.
I would imagine they went through various scenarios but what was ruled in or out , I do not know.

Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #339 on: August 02, 2018, 08:06:23 PM »
Indeed but you have to agree that her parents hadn’t ruled out the fact that Madeleine may have needed to be sedated in order to abduct her?
That is not a question,  it is more a statement of fact that you are asking someone to agree with you.  It is really opinion at best.

I have no idea of what they ruled in and ruled out.
I would imagine they went through various scenarios but what was ruled in or out , I do not know.


Erngath's response seems to show what you say is a fact is faulty.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #340 on: August 02, 2018, 08:09:07 PM »
Whoever falls into the category "Why not share their concerns with those who were there to help and support."

I assume they did share all their concerns with those who were there to help and support but I can't name any of the FLOs .
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #341 on: August 02, 2018, 08:11:16 PM »
I have no idea of what they ruled in and ruled out.
I would imagine they went through various scenarios but what was ruled in or out , I do not know.

I understand that but to ask the question they must have at least considered that it was possible. Agreed ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Erngath

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #342 on: August 02, 2018, 08:16:13 PM »
I understand that but to ask the question they must have at least considered that it was possible. Agreed ?

I have no doubt they considered every eventuality.
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The two German brothers opposing each other!
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #343 on: August 02, 2018, 08:17:12 PM »
I assume they did share all their concerns with those who were there to help and support but I can't name any of the FLOs .
OK so you were talking about the FLOs.  OK so they did share their concerns with them, that bit is in the file, but what is the benefit of that unless the FLO then do something about those concerns, and that bit is not covered in the file.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #344 on: August 02, 2018, 08:19:29 PM »
Kate was making the point that Madeleine was not a push over.  But if you want to split hairs and engage in yet another marathon safari into the cite jungle so be it.
I have already made it very clear that that is not my style, I leave that sort of behaviour to the sticklers for the forum rules.
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