Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[G-Unit]

It seems the first the PJ heard about sedation was three months after Madeleine disappeared.

3rd September 2007 Ricardo Paiva.
Strangely, Kate also made several requests, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine, that the police should take blood, hair and nail tests of Madeleine's twin siblings, because, as she said, she remembered that on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, in spite of all the commotion and noise made by the authorities and other persons who were looking for Madeleine in apartment 5A of the OC, the twins never woke up, having been transported to another apartment, they remained asleep, due to which she now presumes that they were under the effect of some sedative drug that a presumed abductor had administered to the three children in order to be able to abduct Madeleine, a situation which Kate refers to being possible according to what she read in a criminal investigation manual given to her by the British authorities, that would have been the procedure of the abductor in the real case involving abduction, rape and murder of the girl.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm

[Vertigo Swirl]

It seems the first the PJ heard about sedation was three months after Madeleine disappeared.

3rd September 2007 Ricardo Paiva.
Strangely, Kate also made several requests, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine, that the police should take blood, hair and nail tests of Madeleine's twin siblings, because, as she said, she remembered that on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, in spite of all the commotion and noise made by the authorities and other persons who were looking for Madeleine in apartment 5A of the OC, the twins never woke up, having been transported to another apartment, they remained asleep, due to which she now presumes that they were under the effect of some sedative drug that a presumed abductor had administered to the three children in order to be able to abduct Madeleine, a situation which Kate refers to being possible according to what she read in a criminal investigation manual given to her by the British authorities, that would have been the procedure of the abductor in the real case involving abduction, rape and murder of the girl.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm

So unless Kate had brought it up sedation would never even crossed their minds, bless them.  Why did she bother bringing it up then (nb: this question is rhetorical and is not directed at G-unit)

[Brietta]

It seems the first the PJ heard about sedation was three months after Madeleine disappeared.

3rd September 2007 Ricardo Paiva.
Strangely, Kate also made several requests, three months after the disappearance of Madeleine, that the police should take blood, hair and nail tests of Madeleine's twin siblings, because, as she said, she remembered that on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, in spite of all the commotion and noise made by the authorities and other persons who were looking for Madeleine in apartment 5A of the OC, the twins never woke up, having been transported to another apartment, they remained asleep, due to which she now presumes that they were under the effect of some sedative drug that a presumed abductor had administered to the three children in order to be able to abduct Madeleine, a situation which Kate refers to being possible according to what she read in a criminal investigation manual given to her by the British authorities, that would have been the procedure of the abductor in the real case involving abduction, rape and murder of the girl.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm

It seems what I would term an essential investigative skill ... that of observation ... and recording and acting as a result ... was largely unknown to the original Portuguese investigators.

Why else would you suppose the victims of crime should have to read up on possibilities using British manuals after the crime against their child unless the Portuguese were ignorant of them or just didn't bother in the immediate aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance?

In my opinion the quote you have chosen illustrates yet another omission from a failed investigation.

[slartibartfast]

It seems what I would term an essential investigative skill ... that of observation ... and recording and acting as a result ... was largely unknown to the original Portuguese investigators.

Why else would you suppose the victims of crime should have to read up on possibilities using British manuals after the crime against their child unless the Portuguese were ignorant of them or just didn't bother in the immediate aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance?

In my opinion the quote you have chosen illustrates yet another omission from a failed investigation.

I suppose dealing with a group of doctors there may have been a natural if unfortunate tendency to defer to their knowledge.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I suppose dealing with a group of doctors there may have been a natural if unfortunate tendency to defer to their knowledge.

You’d have thought the police who are supposed to be trained to question everything and to think out of the box might have shared the suspicions about doctors that so many sceptics seem to have, but no, you seem to be suggesting that the PJ were in awe of the group’s collective medical training.  Bizarre to say the least.

[slartibartfast]

You’d have thought the police who are supposed to be trained to question everything and to think out of the box might have shared the suspicions about doctors that so many sceptics seem to have, but no, you seem to be suggesting that the PJ were in awe of the group’s collective medical training.  Bizarre to say the least.

They were looking for a missing girl, IMO thought to have probably wandered off. Initial response by the GNR would depend on how the T9 were introduced.

[G-Unit]

There was a story in the Daily Express on 14th May 2007 saying that the Portuguese police 'believe Madeleine may have been drugged with chloroform by her abductor'. It says detectives visited Chemist's shops to ask if they had sold anything suspicious, including travel sickness pills.

Many of the stories in the UK press were blamed on the Portuguese journalists, but I don't think this story was printed by a Portuguese newspaper, so where did it come from? Not from the PJ; there's no evidence that they were following this line of inquiry in May 2007.

Interestingly, travel sickness pills have been used to sedate children, but 'the abductor' would have had to find a way to get them into the child.
http://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-express/20070514/281616710936235

[Vertigo Swirl]

They were looking for a missing girl, IMO thought to have probably wandered off. Initial response by the GNR would depend on how the T9 were introduced.

Really?  Three months later they still thought she’d woke and wandered?  I thought Amaral was suspicious of them all from the get go...

[Vertigo Swirl]

There was a story in the Daily Express on 14th May 2007 saying that the Portuguese police 'believe Madeleine may have been drugged with chloroform by her abductor'. It says detectives visited Chemist's shops to ask if they had sold anything suspicious, including travel sickness pills.

Many of the stories in the UK press were blamed on the Portuguese journalists, but I don't think this story was printed by a Portuguese newspaper, so where did it come from? Not from the PJ; there's no evidence that they were following this line of inquiry in May 2007.

Interestingly, travel sickness pills have been used to sedate children, but 'the abductor' would have had to find a way to get them into the child.
http://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-express/20070514/281616710936235

it would be interesting to know how to get a pill into a child awake or asleep, do you have a cite for this method of sedation?

[jassi]

it would be interesting to know how to get a pill into a child awake or asleep, do you have a cite for this method of sedation?

Crush it into a powder, open mouth and pour in. Not sure how long it would take to take effect.

[G-Unit]

it would be interesting to know how to get a pill into a child awake or asleep, do you have a cite for this method of sedation?

I used to give my children half of an adult tablet when they were small if I had no junior disprin, There were few special medicines for children then. I used a dissolvable pill, but there are liquids nowadays. 

Phenergan Elixir is used to treat the following conditions:

For short term use: to treat adults with difficulty sleeping (insomnia)
To treat allergic conditions such as hay fever or rashes (like nettle rash or hives)
To stop you feeling sick (nausea) or being sick (vomiting) such as travel sickness
For short term use: as a sedative for children aged 2 years and above
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/5586/pil

[G-Unit]

Crush it into a powder, open mouth and pour in. Not sure how long it would take to take effect.

Or mix the powder into a drink.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I used to give my children half of an adult tablet when they were small if I had no junior disprin, There were few special medicines for children then. I used a dissolvable pill, but there are liquids nowadays. 

Phenergan Elixir is used to treat the following conditions:

For short term use: to treat adults with difficulty sleeping (insomnia)
To treat allergic conditions such as hay fever or rashes (like nettle rash or hives)
To stop you feeling sick (nausea) or being sick (vomiting) such as travel sickness
For short term use: as a sedative for children aged 2 years and above
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/5586/pil

Interesting that sedating a child is given as a possible use for a legally available product. 

[Robittybob1]

Who are “the couple” you refer to in the sentence above then? Reply #511

"Former police detectives David Edgar and Arthur Cowley have spent months re-analysing every shred of evidence.

They are convinced the ­abductor went to the family’s apartment on May 3 2007 fully prepared with sufficient drugs, probably ­chloroform, to knock out all three children."

[Robittybob1]

I have read it several times and at no point does Dave Edgar suggest that the McCanns believed chloroform was used, you are mistaken.

We all make mistakes from time to time.