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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #630 on: August 06, 2018, 10:18:37 AM »
The McCanns asked if the PJ had any evidence suggesting that Madeleine had been sedated. A fairly easily understood question with a simple answer. In my opinion it doesn't matter if they were given the answer and by whom? We know the question and we know the answer.
Wasn't Amaral working on the assumption that Madeleine had been sedated?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #631 on: August 06, 2018, 10:21:11 AM »
What is relevant to the argument is that the McCanns raised the issue of possible sedation very early on in the investigation, not 3 months later as has been asserted before.

Why did the McCanns raise the possibility at all ? Sedation is vert rarely used in abductions involving small children I would have thought. It’s an odd question to ask if, with hindsight, they thought the twins had simply been sleeping deeply and there was no evidence to suggest Madeleine had been sedated.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #632 on: August 06, 2018, 10:32:42 AM »
Wasn't Amaral working on the assumption that Madeleine had been sedated?

When?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #633 on: August 06, 2018, 10:34:09 AM »
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm
"The PJ specialist team, which went to the site to collect evidence, excluded the existence of any product that could have been administered to the missing girl in order to maintain her in a state of unconsciousness nor the presence of blood traces."

How did they "exclude the existence of any product that could have been administered to the missing girl in order to maintain her in a state of unconsciousness"?

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #634 on: August 06, 2018, 10:35:24 AM »
When?
I'm searching for answers not giving them.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #635 on: August 06, 2018, 10:48:41 AM »
I'm searching for answers not giving them.

You asked;

Wasn't Amaral working on the assumption that Madeleine had been sedated?

Please give any cites which confirm this, and you might like to pinpoint the stage of the investigation when he worked on the assumption.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #636 on: August 06, 2018, 11:49:48 AM »
You asked;

Wasn't Amaral working on the assumption that Madeleine had been sedated?

Please give any cites which confirm this, and you might like to pinpoint the stage of the investigation when he worked on the assumption.
I'm asking a question.  I'm not making a statement.  No cite required IMO.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #637 on: August 06, 2018, 12:12:58 PM »
I'm asking a question.  I'm not making a statement.  No cite required IMO.

We seem to disagree on the nature of a question.

Wasn't Amaral working on the assumption that Madeleine had been sedated?

Possible answers are Yes or No. But what if the answer isn't so simple? In my opinion he wasn't working on that assumption from day 1. So which period of the investigation are you thinking of?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #638 on: August 06, 2018, 12:15:50 PM »
Why did the McCanns raise the possibility at all ? Sedation is vert rarely used in abductions involving small children I would have thought. It’s an odd question to ask if, with hindsight, they thought the twins had simply been sleeping deeply and there was no evidence to suggest Madeleine had been sedated.
Perhaps logic and reason go out the window when one of your kids disappears into thin air?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #639 on: August 06, 2018, 12:18:14 PM »
Perhaps logic and reason go out the window when one of your kids disappears into thin air?

Perhaps, perhaps not.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #640 on: August 06, 2018, 12:19:47 PM »
It was three months before they mentioned that the twins may have been sedated.
But only a day or so before they raised the possibility of sedation as part of the (alleged) abduction.  So, once again I have to raise the question - why, if sedation is something they themselves had performed, did they even mention it at all in the first place?  This would be drawing attention to something that some people believe they went to great and illegal lengths to hide.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #641 on: August 06, 2018, 12:21:46 PM »
Perhaps, perhaps not.
I'm glad you're agreeing that clear, logical thinking might evade you if you were desperately searching for answers to explain your child's disappearance.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #642 on: August 06, 2018, 12:39:03 PM »
We seem to disagree on the nature of a question.

Wasn't Amaral working on the assumption that Madeleine had been sedated?

Possible answers are Yes or No. But what if the answer isn't so simple? In my opinion he wasn't working on that assumption from day 1. So which period of the investigation are you thinking of?
It has been a while since I looked a O' Enigma.  OK it could be claimed this is GA going off on a limb on his own.  I've got a feeling he was talking about the drugs the McCanns had with them.  I find keeping all the information in your head a mission.   A lot was made out of what Kate's father had said IIRC.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #643 on: August 06, 2018, 01:26:01 PM »
But only a day or so before they raised the possibility of sedation as part of the (alleged) abduction.  So, once again I have to raise the question - why, if sedation is something they themselves had performed, did they even mention it at all in the first place?  This would be drawing attention to something that some people believe they went to great and illegal lengths to hide.

They were drawing attention to something which could be neither proved nor disproved. In my opinion that equals starting a rumour.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?
« Reply #644 on: August 06, 2018, 01:37:05 PM »
They were drawing attention to something which could be neither proved nor disproved. In my opinion that equals starting a rumour.
You have to start somewhere - take samples test them, then work out where the metabolites came from.
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