Could all three children have been sedated by an intruder?

[Vertigo Swirl]

If it wasn’t where you put it and you realised what had happened.

How would you know two days later what had happened and that there was no chance of the body being found?

[Vertigo Swirl]

We have been told by Richard Bilton that the McCann camp were willing to exchange information with journalists. He says he refused, but others may have collaborated.

So you truly believe that the McCann camp (the conspiracy to “start rumours” broadens) planted a completely false story about the police checking local pharmacies.  Oookay then...

[faithlilly]

How would you know two days later what had happened and that there was no chance of the body being found?

And this were going so well VS. You know my theory. Extrapolate from there.

Anyway after two days even if the body was found there would only be evidence of one child being given medicine with a sedative effect, not three and not nearly as suspicious. It would also be hard to prove whether the drug had been given to facilitate the abduction ( difficult) or after the abduction to keep her the child quite ( not so difficult).

[Vertigo Swirl]

And this were going so well VS. You know my theory. Extrapolate from there.

Anyway after two days even if the body was found there would only be evidence of one child being given medicine with a sedative effect, not three and not nearly as suspicious. It would also be hard to prove whether the drug had been given to facilitate the abduction ( difficult) or after the abduction to keep her the child quite ( not so difficult).

Yes I know what your theory is and the question still stands.  How could you confidently predict that the child you casually tossed in a bin two days previously would never be found? 

[faithlilly]

Yes I know what your theory is and the question still stands.  How could you confidently predict that the child you casually tossed in a bin two days previously would never be found?

You go back to the bin, the child is not there. You are told at some point in the next couple of days that the bins are emptied in the early hours of the morning. It really isn’t rocket science. Besides as I said one child found with a sedative drug in their blood is a lot less suspicious than three.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You go back to the bin, the child is not there. You are told at some point in the next couple of days that the bins are emptied in the early hours of the morning. It really isn’t rocket science. Besides as I said one child found with a sedative drug in their blood is a lot less suspicious than three.

So you’d know that once the bin had been emptied you’d be in the clear, even though the reason you hid her in the bin in the first place was so that she would be quickly discovered?  Right you are then. 
As for your second point, we seem to be going round in circles back to my original point which was why would you deliberately draw attention to sedation as being involved if you yourself had administered a sedative and  there was a likelihood of the body being recovered, and lo and behold! found to contain a sedative?  It makes no sense and would make you look more suspicious.

[John]

IMO, the PJ missed the perfect opportunity to put this particular issue to rest for ever.  The very fact that so many people raised the possibility was justification enough that they be tested. 

[faithlilly]

IMO, the PJ missed the perfect opportunity to put this particular issue to rest for ever.  The very fact that so many people raised the possibility was justification enough that they be tested.

So many people ? Who actually raised the issue when testing the twins would have yielded a result ? The only people were the McCanns and we don’t even know if their question was passed to the PJ by the FLOs.

[Robittybob1]

So many people ? Who actually raised the issue when testing the twins would have yielded a result ? The only people were the McCanns and we don’t even know if their question was passed to the PJ by the FLOs.

There is some evidence it had been.  There were thorough examinations of the apartment for spillages, empty containers, syringes, and the pillow (from Madeleine's bed IIRC) was checked in some way for traces of Chloroform and ether.  Unsure of the date but if it was after the meeting with the FLOs then that could be a sign of a response rather than the PJ working on their own initiative.

[G-Unit]

There is some evidence it had been.  There were thorough examinations of the apartment for spillages, empty containers, syringes, and the pillow (from Madeleine's bed IIRC) was checked in some way for traces of Chloroform and ether.  Unsure of the date but if it was after the meeting with the FLOs then that could be a sign of a response rather than the PJ working on their own initiative.

The forensic examination was carried out on the 4th. The FLO's arrived in Portugal on 5th.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So many people ? Who actually raised the issue when testing the twins would have yielded a result ? The only people were the McCanns and we don’t even know if their question was passed to the PJ by the FLOs.

Why would the FLOs mention that they’d been asked the question by the McCanns if they subsequently failed to pass it on to the PJ?  That would just be making themselves look bad wouldn’t it?

[slartibartfast]

The forensic examination was carried out on the 4th. The FLO's arrived in Portugal on 5th.

So it is possible that as part,of the FLO’s briefing, they were told about the forensic exam enabling them to answer the McCann’s question.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So it is possible that as part,of the FLO’s briefing, they were told about the forensic exam enabling them to answer the McCann’s question.

The forensic results came back in a day?  Impressive.  Strange that the FLOs would not mention the fact that they had already answered the McCanns question about sedatives in their statements.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Out of interest what items were forensicslly tested for the presence of sedatives?  Bedclothes?  Cuddlecat? 

[G-Unit]

So you truly believe that the McCann camp (the conspiracy to “start rumours” broadens) planted a completely false story about the police checking local pharmacies.  Oookay then...

UK editors and journalists have blamed the Portuguese press for the untrue stories they printed. The Portuguese press have claimed that they got their stories from the PJ.

As far as I know the PJ didn't investigate sedation in May 2007 and the Portuguese press didn't report on it either.

The Express got the story from somewhere or they invented it.