Cadaver dogs are unreliable - Eugene Zapata

[Mr Gray]

The difference being that the police employ over 2,500 dogs in the UK and no psychics..

And the similarity is that both are, supported by anectdotal evidence

[G-Unit]

Stockham knew, exactly what the figure meant.... The judge didnt

The judge knew that Stockham knew. That was sufficient. If a consultant cardiologist gave evidence in court the judge wouldn't need to know what his evidence meant, it would be sufficient that the cardiologist knew.

[Brietta]

Eleanor said there was NO evidence   That's not correct is it? The evidence collected was not sufficient.

To what evidence do you refer, please?

ie ... that which is "insufficient" according to your post.

[Angelo222]

IMO That claim has been debunked several times..... The dogs IMO initially did not alert to sites in 5a..... But they were given more time to go over the same ground again.... This did not happen in other apartments
The PJ questioned why the dog alerted to sites he had previously  ignored... Nothing damning at all

Grime explained that extremely well at the time. If the dog shows no interest whatsoever in property then there is no point in going any further. Eddie showed a keen interest in 5a the moment he crossed the threshold according to Grime so he had to take things further.

[Mr Gray]

Grime explained that extremely well at the time. If the dog shows no I detest whatsoever in property then there is no point t in going any further. Eddie showed an I detest in 5a the moment he crossed the threshold according to Grime so he had to go further.

5a, was the only apartment that had been covered in luminol
IMO Eddie was excited because he was at a crime scene and recognised the odours...

[Angelo222]

Eleanor said there was NO evidence   That's not correct is it? The evidence collected was not sufficient.

Eleanor is wrong. Police don't make people official suspects in the absence of credible evidence.

[Angelo222]

5a, was the only apartment that had been covered in luminol
Eddie was excited because he was at a crime scene and recognised the odours...

Which would have dispersed long before the English dogs were introduced whereas cadaver odour does not.

In any event the same response didn't occur at the Murat property and he too was an official suspect with the property being thoroughly checked forensically.

You can't have it both ways, either CSI presence had an impact or it didn't.

[Mr Gray]

Eleanor is wrong. Police don't make people official suspects in the absence of credible evidence.

You are, wring.. The archiving report said none of the evidence used to make the McCann's arguidis was later confirmed

[Mr Gray]

Which would have dispersed long before the English dogs were introduced whereas cadaver odour does not.

In any event the same response didn't occur at the Murat property and he too was an official suspect with the property bei g thoroughly checked forensically.

You can't have it both ways, either CSI presence had an impact or it didn't.

Residual scent does disperse

[G-Unit]

And the similarity is that both are, supported by anectdotal evidence

I don't know what evidence there is about psychics, it's not something I would be interested in. As far as I know it's not reliable enough to get the police interested.

[Brietta]

Eleanor is wrong. Police don't make people official suspects in the absence of credible evidence.

If I remember correctly the evidence to which you refer is Piava's allegation that Kate had a dream.

Wasn't there something about Dani Krugel and his mystery machine thrown into the mix ... not to mention Eddie occasionally having non-evidential barking fits?

Hardly a cast iron case for constituting arguidos of anyone ... let alone greiving parents of a missing child ... but they did, only to find that none of it was capable of surviving being properly scrutinised, 

[Eleanor]

Eleanor is wrong. Police don't make people official suspects in the absence of credible evidence.

The McCanns were.

[Angelo222]

You are, wring.. The archiving report said none of the evidence used to make the McCann's arguidis was later confirmed

It's still evidence which may or may not be later used in a trial.  Eleanor said there was no evidence which is incorrect.  If a body is found in or around Luz at some later date then depending on what the forensic pathologist or anthropologist finds, that evidence could become important.  Simply saying that there is no evidence signifies a failure to understand the case evidence correctly imo.

[Eleanor]

It's still evidence which may or may not be later used in a trial.  Eleanor said there was no evidence which is incorrect.  If a body is found in or around Luz at some later date then depending on what the forensic pathologist finds, that evidence could become important.  Simply saying that there is no evidence signifies a failure to understand the case evidence correctly imo.

What was this Evidence and what did it point to?

[Angelo222]

What was this Evidence and what did it point to?

I believe there is a thread on this so I will not divert this topic.