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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4080 on: June 29, 2020, 11:29:57 PM »
Speculation, of course, and I don't "believe it" instead I was suggesting it is a more likely event than stranger abduction... but getting back on topic maybe it happened just before or just as the latest prime suspect was in the apartment.
So after the McCanns left the apartment then.  It must have happened virtually immediately after they left then in order for sufficient time to have elapsed for the dog alerts to be accurate.  So at what point do you consider Smithman discovered the corpse and did he tell his wife straight away or wait until the place was in pandemonium in your view?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4081 on: June 29, 2020, 11:30:53 PM »
Not when a cadaver dog alerted and the blood dog found her blood. Dream on!
Cadaver dogs alert to blood.  Next?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4082 on: June 29, 2020, 11:32:04 PM »

TOPIC PLEASE.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4083 on: June 29, 2020, 11:34:14 PM »
Speculation, of course, and I don't "believe it" instead I was suggesting it is a more likely event than stranger abduction... but getting back on topic maybe it happened just before or just as the latest prime suspect was in the apartment.

There is no evidence the prime suspect was ever in 5A and there never will be as long as Portuguese intransigence vetoes looking for it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4084 on: June 29, 2020, 11:36:08 PM »
There is no evidence the prime suspect was ever in 5A

Absolutely agree with you on that point!!!

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4085 on: June 29, 2020, 11:44:26 PM »
Cadaver dogs alert to blood.  Next?

A cadaver dog goes into a crime scene FIRST months later before the blood dog. A body isn't there so ask yourself why that is? I will end it here being off-topic.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4086 on: June 29, 2020, 11:58:12 PM »
A cadaver dog goes into a crime scene FIRST months later before the blood dog. A body isn't there so ask yourself why that is? I will end it here being off-topic.
No idea what you’re on about but if you are labouring under the delusion that new DNA tests confirming a speck of blood of Madeleine’s in Apt 5 a means curtains for the McCanns, then all I can say is you have my sympathies.  Let’s return to the topic now.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4087 on: June 30, 2020, 12:05:10 AM »
Cadaver dogs alert to blood.  Next?
Yes they do.  Decomposed human blood.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4088 on: June 30, 2020, 01:22:45 AM »
No idea what you’re on about but if you are labouring under the delusion that new DNA tests confirming a speck of blood of Madeleine’s in Apt 5 a means curtains for the McCanns, then all I can say is you have my sympathies.  Let’s return to the topic now.

There are other retained samples one would hope!

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4089 on: June 30, 2020, 02:21:28 AM »
Mysterious phone call made by McCann suspect places him 'outside resort' before she was snatched
30 Jun, 2020
German police believe a key piece of evidence proves prime suspect Christian Brueckner was outside the Ocean Club minutes before Madeleine McCann was snatched.

Brueckner had made a 30-minute call to a phone registered to a man named Diogo Silva just an hour before McCann disappeared.

Prosecutors have since traced the phone used by Brueckner, claiming it connected to the mast owned by the resort complex where the McCanns were staying.

The phone call has been a central part of the renewed police probe since the twice-convicted paedophile was named as a key suspect earlier this month.
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"We know that the phone number which was used by our suspect on May 3, 2007, was connecting to the mast which belongs to the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz," he said.

TV host Liz Hayes then presses the prosecutor on if they can place Brueckner at the scene.

He replies: "Yes, we think so."
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The man on the other end of Brueckner's call is now considered a "key witness".

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12344161

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4090 on: June 30, 2020, 03:04:38 AM »
I said she could have left anytime after 5:30 because that was the last independent witness sighting. Another theory could be that she didn't go back to their apartment at all and went elsewhere but from evidence I don't believe that happened.


Instead of you — who wasn’t there — coming up with theories that suit YOUR agenda, why don’t you listen to the FACTUAL EVIDENCE by those who were there?

Gerry played tennis for an hour at 6pm while Kate fed the children, bathed them and tucked them into bed by 7pm.

Gerry came back & kissed them goodnight, then both he & Kate showered & got ready for dinner.

You can imagine up as many scenarios in your head as you want, but it won’t alter the facts. Are you saying that because Kate was in the apartment at 5:30pm feeding the children and getting them ready for bed that means she must have murdered Maddie? How about all their friends who were doing the same?

They were doing what ALL normal parents’ do at that time of day on holiday — when you’ve been on a family holiday do you all stay outside when your toddlers are having dinner and getting ready for bed? Or do you bath them, brush their teeth, get them ready for bed INSIDE?!
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4091 on: June 30, 2020, 03:17:06 AM »
If you've done research you should know that the Moyes were out on their balcony above the apartment from around 9:15 for about 30 minutes and saw nobody lurking outside! You always seem to be missing crucial evidence. My theory - Madeleine left the apartment before 9:15 but I will not give an exact time yet but I have it!


Have you ever been on a holiday abroad?

Because going by your strange “theories” you seem to think holidaymakers stay sat on their balcony staring at one spot doing surveillance. The Moyes’ balcony didn’t overlook the road! And even if it HAD they’d have been looking at EACH OTHER, chatting, drinking, maybe listening to music.

It was also DARK.

And do you think Christian B would have been standing under a spotlight to be SEEN? He was a professional burglar for God sake — he’d have been positioned so as not to be spotted easily.

I don’t miss ANY crucial evidence. And the reason for that is my head isn’t filled with weird scenarios,


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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4092 on: June 30, 2020, 04:37:59 AM »
You have yet to show us any evidence that she was abducted.

Do some more research. I've worked in critical care for 30 years. If someone is unconscious they can lose control of their airway (particularly so in children because of their anatomical differences with adults), the tongue could cause an obstruction of the upper airway or the regurgitation of semi digested food could cause airway obstruction (why do you think people are nil by mouth before an anaesthetic?). If a person's airway is totally obstructed (not uncommon after head injury) the resultant lack of oxygen to vital organs (hypoxia) would be critical after four or five minutes. The lack of oxygen to the heart would cause cardiac arrest after about four of five minutes of apnoea. Children become hypoxic much faster than adults. It's fantasy to pretend that death after unconsciousness caused by a head injury isn't a possibility after four to five minutes.

The sedative properties of phenergan are not a rare side effect. They are expected in a normal dose. I've met  medics who openly use phenergan for travel sickness in children knowing they are going to have a very peaceful journey.


And you — in the whole one year you’ve been on here — have failed  to show any evidence that the McCanns’ murdered their children. And the reason for that is, there isn’t any because they didn’t kill her. You just seem to WANT them to be responsible for some strange reason...

I don’t care how long you’ve worked in critical care — you aren’t a doctor — because in some of your previous answers you’ve got things wrong.  Such as you saying Hypoxia would be critical after five minutes: you’re wrong. It’s Anoxia (total lack of oxygen) that causes brain death. And brain death occurs after just FOUR minutes — not five.

You like to use medical terms, which you could easily get off the Internet, but doctors who I know use layman’s terms when discussing medicine with people who aren’t medically qualified. They don’t say “hypoxia” when it’s far simpler to say “lack of oxygen” so people understand.

You seem to want to discuss things that have no relevance whatsoever to Madeleine’s disappearance. You’ve no idea if Maddie fractured her skull! You’ve no idea what happened at all. Are you seriously so gullible to think Maddie had an accident and her parents’ (one a cardiologist; one an ex-anaesthetist) would just sit and do nothing?!! Then when she died go and hide her body?!!

You’ve a seriously strange thought process.

I don’t believe you have any medical knowledge at all. To say that Phenergan is EXPECTED to cause cessation of breathing in a NORMAL DOSE proves your ignorance! That’s about one of the most stupid remarks I’ve ever read! Do you think pharmacists would sell it over the counter if it was as deadly as you claim?!  It’s true that in very rare cases both children and adults can develop breathing difficulties which can prove fatal, just as some people can take an Aspirin and bleed to death. But it is RARE. And furthermore, YOU have no idea if Kate or Gerry even gave it to their children! They may have used it for themselves. And why the hell would two highly qualified medical doctors, one a cardiologist (now Professor) and one an ex-IC Unit Anaesthetist know less about side-effects than YOU do?!

They wouldn’t — with all their expertise — and being Maddie’s parents put her in danger! And HAD she suddenly developed a serious side-effect they’d have called an ambulance and started resuscitating her! They wouldn’t have gone to f*cking dinner leaving her dead on the floor! And had they FOUND her dead they wouldn’t have hidden her body to just DUMP it later!

They’d have called for an ambulance, and if she couldn’t have been revived it would have been put down to a tragic allergic reaction.

You’re dismissing ALL the overwhelming evidence that Christian Buecker WAS outside the Ocean Club — police have proved that by mobile records — and all the other evidence that has convinced Hans Christian Wolter (chief of police) who’s SAID he KNOWS Madeleine is dead; he knows HOW she died; and he KNOWS who did it!

YOU just don’t want to believe that, because you want to believe the McCanns killed their daughter. Maybe, despite the tragedy they’ve had to endure, you’re in some way jealous of them because they’re highly successful doctors...
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4093 on: June 30, 2020, 05:10:51 AM »
Could you give me one example anywhere in the world of s child dying in minutes from a head injury in a domestic accident...the effects of a subdural haematoma take hours


Sorry to jump in, Dave, but this man who claims to have worked 30 years in critical care (doesn’t say what he does, though...) isn’t even aware that if a child has a depressed fractured skull they’ll have surgery to stem any bleeding and repair the skull. It’s serious, of course — but it takes one hell of a fall to fracture a skull.

It’s as nonsensical as when he claims Phenergan antihistamine is EXPECTED to be fatal!  You can buy that in Boots!

Just imagine if that was true: anyone who wanted to bump off their spouse could just slip a teaspoon of Phenergan in their cocktail and that would be job done!
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4094 on: June 30, 2020, 05:30:40 AM »
What's the Portuguese problem with requests to forensically check samples from the McCann apartment ?  They denied Scotland Yard in 2014 and they denied the Germans in their turn 2020.

Madeleine McCann: 100 strands of untested human hair provide new hope in DNA hunt
BRITISH detectives probing the Madeleine McCann disappearance in Portugal want to retest hairs after it was found previous DNA tests carried out during the original investigation were incomplete.
By GERARD COUZENS
08:52, Wed, Oct 29, 2014
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/528865/Madeleine-McCann-human-hairs-hunt-Portugal
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But Portuguese officials say that this saliva sample has already been examined at Institute Forsenic Medicine in Coimbra and that no DNA match to new suspect Brueckner was found.

A similar request by Scotland Yard was refused in 2014 when British detectives wanted to retest nearly 100 strands of hair strands that were discovered during the original investigation but never DNA-matched.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8431391/German-police-want-retest-mystery-saliva-McCanns-Praia-Luz-apartment.html


The Portuguese Police are scared to show how incompetent they’ve been; that’s why they’re refusing to hand over the samples.
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