New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Wonderfulspam]

Don't his phone records count? and he was already on the police radar but the PJ managed to make a mess of an attempt to interview him.

So I suggest it might have been pertinent for the PJ to track him down and ask why now you see him in Luz on the third but come the fourth - now you don't.

There was also a job of co-ordinating information to be done.  For example did it really take all that time for Ocean Club employees phones to be checked out.
They sure had no problem going through the McCann's records with a fine toothcomb.



A hotel worker may have given the Madeleine McCann suspect the opportunity to break into the family’s apartment on the night she disappeared, it is claimed.
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The hotel employee has been identified by police, said Correio de Manhã. It also claimed the employee had the suspect’s mobile number in his phone.

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/madeleine-mccann-praia-da-luz-hotel-worker-christian-brueckner-opportunity-441331

I'm sorry, what do his phone records count as?

Presumably if it's true that an OC worker had Brueckner's phone number then cell tower data would show calls or text between the two mobiles.

They have the data from the mast in Luz. 

Brueckner recieved a phone call, made from outside of Luz at 7:30, he had decade old child sex offences with no known further similar offences at that time, that seems to be about it as far as reasonable suspicion goes.

[Wonderfulspam]

Oh hang on wait, he did abduct some petrol in 2006.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm sorry, what do his phone records count as?

Presumably if it's true that an OC worker had Brueckner's phone number then cell tower data would show calls or text between the two mobiles.

They have the data from the mast in Luz. 

Brueckner recieved a phone call, made from outside of Luz at 7:30, he had decade old child sex offences with no known further similar offences at that time, that seems to be about it as far as reasonable suspicion goes.

I don’t suppose Cleo Smith’s abductor was walking around with a t-shirt proclaiming himself to be her abductor either - he was caught thanks to diligent policework, something that was sadly lacking in PdL in 2007

[Brietta]

I'm sorry, what do his phone records count as?

Presumably if it's true that an OC worker had Brueckner's phone number then cell tower data would show calls or text between the two mobiles.

They have the data from the mast in Luz. 

Brueckner recieved a phone call, made from outside of Luz at 7:30, he had decade old child sex offences with no known further similar offences at that time, that seems to be about it as far as reasonable suspicion goes.

                                          EVIDENCE 👀👀

[Brietta]

I'm sorry, what do his phone records count as?

Presumably if it's true that an OC worker had Brueckner's phone number then cell tower data would show calls or text between the two mobiles.

They have the data from the mast in Luz. 

Brueckner recieved a phone call, made from outside of Luz at 7:30, he had decade old child sex offences with no known further similar offences at that time, that seems to be about it as far as reasonable suspicion goes.

I always find it quite touching the way in which sceptics imagine the police are sharing every scrap of info they hold in a very active investigation ;)

[Wonderfulspam]

                                          EVIDENCE 👀👀

It's all very well saying 'evidence'

What was the evidence of Brueckners involvement circa 2007?

All the 'evidence' against him seems to have come from his friends a decade later.

I'm not sure the PJ could arrest him in 2007 using evidence found at a later date.

[Wonderfulspam]

I don’t suppose Cleo Smith’s abductor was walking around with a t-shirt proclaiming himself to be her abductor either - he was caught thanks to diligent policework, something that was sadly lacking in PdL in 2007

He was caught because there was evidence pointing to him, including CCTV, phone data & eye witnesses to nappy shopping.

The evidence against Brueckner seems to be phone data placing him where he lived & statements made against him at a considerably later date.

[Mr Gray]

He was caught because there was evidence pointing to him, including CCTV, phone data & eye witnesses to nappy shopping.

The evidence against Brueckner seems to be phone data placing him where he lived & statements made against him at a considerably later date.

You Think that's all the evidence there is..Wolters statements strongly support that there is more.. A lot more

[Wonderfulspam]

You Think that's all the evidence there is..Wolters statements strongly support that there is more.. A lot more

Oh great, more jam tomorrow.

[Vertigo Swirl]

He was caught because there was evidence pointing to him, including CCTV, phone data & eye witnesses to nappy shopping.

The evidence against Brueckner seems to be phone data placing him where he lived & statements made against him at a considerably later date.

How much of the evidence against Cleo’s abductor were you aware of before he was caught and they put it in the Daily Mail, out of interest?  As I recall there was a zip opened higher than the child could reach and a speeding car and that was all we were told.  Is there a tiny possibility in your view that we don’t know all the evidence the police have on Bruckner or is that completely out of the question?

[Wonderfulspam]

How much of the evidence against Cleo’s abductor were you aware of before he was caught and they put it in the Daily Mail, out of interest?  As I recall there was a zip opened higher than the child could reach and a speeding car and that was all we were told.  Is there a tiny possibility in your view that we don’t know all the evidence the police have on Bruckner or is that completely out of the question?

From what I read earlier there was a witnesses to a car leaving hastily from the campsite around 3am, other witnesses heard the screeching tyres, the car was found at some point on the highway CCTV, this was mentioned earlier in the week.

Could the police have other information against Brueckner?

Maybe, although it obviously wouldn't be cctv, but if they do, it didn't emerge until 2013-2017, so there's not a lot the PJ could do about that back in 2007.

[Brietta]

From what I read earlier there was a witnesses to a car leaving hastily from the campsite around 3am, other witnesses heard the screeching tyres, the car was found at some point on the highway CCTV, this was mentioned earlier in the week.

Could the police have other information against Brueckner?

Maybe, although it obviously wouldn't be cctv, but if they do, it didn't emerge until 2013-2017, so there's not a lot the PJ could do about that back in 2007.

The Australian police initially had nothing against Cleo's abductor.  They had to do a bit of proper policing to get the evidence and that is precisely what is happening now courtesy of the German police.

The case should have been made in Portugal back in 2007 - the phone records would have been a start.  Instead it had to wait until 2014 for Scotland Yard to carry out the groundwork - bearing in mind that police work involves eliminating as well as nailing suspects according to the evidence.
That was not done in 2007 at a time when it might well have been likely to return Madeleine to the bosom of her family - just as Cleo was - and that is the real tragedy of this.

[Wonderfulspam]

The Australian police initially had nothing against Cleo's abductor.  They had to do a bit of proper policing to get the evidence and that is precisely what is happening now courtesy of the German police.

The case should have been made in Portugal back in 2007 - the phone records would have been a start.  Instead it had to wait until 2014 for Scotland Yard to carry out the groundwork - bearing in mind that police work involves eliminating as well as nailing suspects according to the evidence.
That was not done in 2007 at a time when it might well have been likely to return Madeleine to the bosom of her family - just as Cleo was - and that is the real tragedy of this.

So the phone information uncovered by SY shows what?

A man with historical sex offence convictions living in PDL, recieved a phone call in PDL, where he was living & had been for some years, with no further evidence of sex offences having occurred in the interim.

Should be able to get a search warrant with that.

[Mr Gray]

So the phone information uncovered by SY shows what?

A man with historical sex offence convictions living in PDL, recieved a phone call in PDL, where he was living & had been for some years, with no further evidence of sex offences having occurred in the interim.

Should be able to get a search warrant with that.

It's tiresome pointing out the obvious but if they had done a little more investigating they  may well have found out more... They may well have solved the case

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's tiresome pointing out the obvious but if they had done a little more investigating they  may well have found out more... They may well have solved the case

Yep, that’s what it all boils down to.