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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14610 on: November 04, 2021, 11:29:48 AM »
Yes, this was the picture that should have caused the police to beat a path directly to Brueckner's door, much like what happened in the Cleo Smith case.

Here was a man who had eyes, nose, ears & hair, sometimes wore sunglasses.

It's pretty obvious it's him & couldn't be just about anyone else with a face & hair that sometimes wore sunglasses.
How many criminal males living in PdL fitted this description at the time?  Do you think it was far too many for the poor little PdL to have bothered investigating properly? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14611 on: November 04, 2021, 11:41:39 AM »
How many criminal males living in PdL fitted this description at the time?  Do you think it was far too many for the poor little PdL to have bothered investigating properly?

Amaral, the doyen of all Detectives had already made up his mind while recovering from his daily hangover and facing being made an Arguido himself.

Just how much did you expect the poor man to cope with?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14612 on: November 04, 2021, 11:42:24 AM »
How many criminal males living in PdL fitted this description at the time?  Do you think it was far too many for the poor little PdL to have bothered investigating properly?

That's one for the police to answer.

As I understand it, the Algarve is popular with British & European holiday makers, people with holiday homes & a considerable amount of them are probably white, fair to brown haired, approaching 6 foot & sometimes wear sunglasses.

(Guess what, I'm about 6 foot, light brown hair, own sunglasses)

These aren't very distinctive features.

Neither does e-fit of this man specifically look like Brueckner, but you're right, they should have just bashed his door in anyway, with little to nothing to suggest it was him.
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Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14613 on: November 04, 2021, 11:42:36 AM »
I cant help feeling that the contrast between the two investigations must be particularly painful for the McCanns. 

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14614 on: November 04, 2021, 11:44:09 AM »

Tamsin Sillence flicked through the mug shots, didn't pick anyone out.

Maybe she's now confirmed to Wolters it was him she saw & his mug just wasn't in the file.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14615 on: November 04, 2021, 11:51:00 AM »
That's one for the police to answer.

As I understand it, the Algarve is popular with British & European holiday makers, people with holiday homes & a considerable amount of them are probably white, fair to brown haired, approaching 6 foot & sometimes wear sunglasses.

(Guess what, I'm about 6 foot, light brown hair, own sunglasses)

These aren't very distinctive features.

Neither does e-fit of this man specifically look like Brueckner, but you're right, they should have just bashed his door in anyway, with little to nothing to suggest it was him.
So, on the basis of the description given and the fact that there may have been several local criminals fitting the description you think the police were quite right not to follow it up with anything more than a knock on the door?  And you think this is good policing do you?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14616 on: November 04, 2021, 11:55:45 AM »
I cant help feeling that the contrast between the two investigations must be particularly painful for the McCanns.
Yes, it's really crazy that the Australian police followed up the lead of a speeding white car - I mean how many white cars are there in that neck of the woods?  Loads I bet.  They should have just followed the example of the PJ and not bothered.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14617 on: November 04, 2021, 11:58:37 AM »
So, on the basis of the description given and the fact that there may have been several local criminals fitting the description you think the police were quite right not to follow it up with anything more than a knock on the door?  And you think this is good policing do you?

How many other leads were they bombarded with at the time, with people insisting they'd seen Maddie at a petrol stations in Spain or in the Kif mountains with Joana?

If Tamsin Sillence picked out Brueckner, you might have a point, but she didn't, & there was nothing to implicate him.

They already had Jane Tanner's very strong evidence of the abductor, & he didn't in anyway match Brueckner's description, so there was no reason to suspect him.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14618 on: November 04, 2021, 11:59:55 AM »
Yes, it's really crazy that the Australian police followed up the lead of a speeding white car - I mean how many white cars are there in that neck of the woods?  Loads I bet.  They should have just followed the example of the PJ and not bothered.

At 3 am, around the time the child disappeared.

Of course, if the PJ had just followed up on that sighting of Brueckner's campervan.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14619 on: November 04, 2021, 12:22:33 PM »
How many other leads were they bombarded with at the time, with people insisting they'd seen Maddie at a petrol stations in Spain or in the Kif mountains with Joana?

If Tamsin Sillence picked out Brueckner, you might have a point, but she didn't, & there was nothing to implicate him.

They already had Jane Tanner's very strong evidence of the abductor, & he didn't in anyway match Brueckner's description, so there was no reason to suspect him.
Was she shown Bruckner's mugshot?  If so please supply a cite. 
There is no excuse for not following up leads on your very own doorstep, although you seem to think it's quite acceptable to knock on the door of a known criminal and then walk away never to return when he doesn't answer.
What you also seem to be saying is that the PJ were stupid sheep who didn't follow up other leads because of Jane Tanner.  Is there no end to the list of excuses you're prepared to make for the PJ's general crapness?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14620 on: November 04, 2021, 12:29:52 PM »
Was she shown Bruckner's mugshot? If so please supply a cite. 
There is no excuse for not following up leads on your very own doorstep, although you seem to think it's quite acceptable to knock on the door of a known criminal and then walk away never to return when he doesn't answer.
What you also seem to be saying is that the PJ were stupid sheep who didn't follow up other leads because of Jane Tanner.  Is there no end to the list of excuses you're prepared to make for the PJ's general crapness?

I already asked that.

He either was shown & she didn't pick him out.

Or, his mug shot wasn't held at that time by the PJ.

Or, it was held but just wasn't amongst those shown to her.

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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14621 on: November 04, 2021, 12:31:17 PM »


She said that she can recognise the man both personally and photographically, and create a photofit.

Therefore I interrupt the present deposition and show the deponent photographs of individuals with similar characteristics.

I resume the deposition where it is consigned that the diligence resulted negatively.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14622 on: November 04, 2021, 12:39:34 PM »
I already asked that.

He either was shown & she didn't pick him out.

Or, his mug shot wasn't held at that time by the PJ.

Or, it was held but just wasn't amongst those shown to her.
In your previous post you stated she did not pick out his mugshot as a fact.  Hard to do if she was never shown it in the first place!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14623 on: November 04, 2021, 12:42:19 PM »
In your previous post you stated she did not pick out his mugshot as a fact.  Hard to do if she was never shown it in the first place!

Well she didn't if it was in there & didn't if it wasn't, so how was I wrong?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #14624 on: November 04, 2021, 12:44:41 PM »
At 3 am, around the time the child disappeared.

Of course, if the PJ had just followed up on that sighting of Brueckner's campervan.
Tasmin Sillence's sighting was of a man she viewed as suspicious standing next to Apartment 5A twice during the McCanns' stay, once the day prior to the abduction.   This was clearly unusual as far as she was concerned which is why she reported it to the police.  The police even managed to find a window of opportunity in their busy schedule to take down her statement and file it so they must have thought it of some worth but obviously not enough to check out the local criminal fraternity resembling her description. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".