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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15045 on: January 25, 2022, 01:25:17 PM »
There is not a single fair minded person on this board who does not respect Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence in the outrage against Madeleine McCann although he is a proven rapist - torturer - paedophile in relation to other cases.

Your criticism should more appropriately be reserved for those who have delighted in pointing accusatory fingers at Madeleine's parents for the past fifteen years.

You prime amongst them.

I see an hypocrisy in that to which you are obviously blind.  Funny old world is it not 😁

I have pointed out anomalies in the accounts of the Tapas 9, mostly in response to those who believe there are none. I accuse them of failing to tell a coherent story about the events of 3rd May 2007, and have provided my evidence. That doesn't amount to accusing any of them of committing a crime.

CB has been accused of committing a crime by the German authorities; not by following due process, but by making public statements without any definitive evidence being provided.

I see nothing hypocritical in my stance, and I object to the constant accusations being made against me. Please provide evidence to support your accusations or stop making them.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15046 on: January 25, 2022, 01:34:38 PM »
Oh, sorry, I thought you were arguing that he was. So you're not convinced that Wolters has identified the perpetrator, but you think it's likely to have been someone similar. Is there any evidence that a 'predatory paedophile' was involved?
I think so, yes, the fact is you don’t accept that what I consider to be evidence IS evidence because you don’t understand what evidence is.  IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15047 on: January 25, 2022, 01:41:20 PM »
I have pointed out anomalies in the accounts of the Tapas 9, mostly in response to those who believe there are none. I accuse them of failing to tell a coherent story about the events of 3rd May 2007, and have provided my evidence. That doesn't amount to accusing any of them of committing a crime.

CB has been accused of committing a crime by the German authorities; not by following due process, but by making public statements without any definitive evidence being provided.

I see nothing hypocritical in my stance, and I object to the constant accusations being made against me. Please provide evidence to support your accusations or stop making them.
Define "definitive evidence" - how does it differ from just plain old evidence?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15048 on: January 25, 2022, 01:59:49 PM »
I think so, yes, the fact is you don’t accept that what I consider to be evidence IS evidence because you don’t understand what evidence is.  IMO.

Well, one of us is lacking something it seems. Have you ever wondered if it might be you, not me?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15049 on: January 25, 2022, 02:00:23 PM »
What are the chances, another one, still like Rowley said, they walk amongst us, not in so many words but you should get the drift.

The reality is in any urban area, you cast your net wide and you find a whole range of offences and sex offenders who live nearby and those coincidences need to be sifted out; what is a coincidence and what could be linked to the investigation we are currently dealing with and just like we do in London we have been doing in Portugal so offences which could be linked have to be looked at and either ruled in or ruled out and that’s the work we have been doing.[
Well, quite. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15050 on: January 25, 2022, 02:01:02 PM »
Define "definitive evidence" - how does it differ from just plain old evidence?

Conclusive.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15051 on: January 25, 2022, 02:02:54 PM »
Well, one of us is lacking something it seems. Have you ever wondered if it might be you, not me?
What is it you think I might be lacking?  I think I understand the meaning of the word "evidence" for example,  that an open window and the testimony of 7 friends of the McCanns is evidence, do you agree or disagree? 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15052 on: January 25, 2022, 02:03:48 PM »
Conclusive.
Conclusive evidence would be proof would it not?  If not, what's the difference between conclusive evidence and proof? 
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15053 on: January 25, 2022, 03:30:16 PM »
Oh, sorry, I thought you were arguing that he was. So you're not convinced that Wolters has identified the perpetrator, but you think it's likely to have been someone similar. Is there any evidence that a 'predatory paedophile' was involved?

From what Wolters has said he has proof of paedophile involvement

Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15054 on: January 25, 2022, 03:37:43 PM »
From what Wolters has said he has proof of paedophile involvement
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15055 on: January 25, 2022, 03:39:28 PM »
I have pointed out anomalies in the accounts of the Tapas 9, mostly in response to those who believe there are none. I accuse them of failing to tell a coherent story about the events of 3rd May 2007, and have provided my evidence. That doesn't amount to accusing any of them of committing a crime.

CB has been accused of committing a crime by the German authorities; not by following due process, but by making public statements without any definitive evidence being provided.

I see nothing hypocritical in my stance, and I object to the constant accusations being made against me. Please provide evidence to support your accusations or stop making them.

You are assuming the statements are accurate. You have no definitive evidence they are

Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15056 on: January 25, 2022, 03:44:03 PM »
You are assuming the statements are accurate. You have no definitive evidence they are
So they weren't checking the kids then?
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15057 on: January 25, 2022, 04:17:33 PM »
I have pointed out anomalies in the accounts of the Tapas 9, mostly in response to those who believe there are none. I accuse them of failing to tell a coherent story about the events of 3rd May 2007, and have provided my evidence. That doesn't amount to accusing any of them of committing a crime.

CB has been accused of committing a crime by the German authorities; not by following due process, but by making public statements without any definitive evidence being provided.

I see nothing hypocritical in my stance, and I object to the constant accusations being made against me. Please provide evidence to support your accusations or stop making them.

You say ~ I have pointed out anomalies in the accounts of the Tapas 9, mostly in response to those who believe there are none. I accuse them of failing to tell a coherent story about the events of 3rd May 2007, and have provided my evidence. That doesn't amount to accusing any of them of committing a crime.

Why bother!
What on earth compels you to obsess about what you think are "anomalies" in police statements made fifteen years ago - what drives your purpose for that.

 ~ CB has been accused of committing a crime by the German authorities; not by following due process, but by making public statements without any definitive evidence being provided.

Christian Brueckner is the declared prime suspect in a murder investigation. 
For the German authorities to have done that suggests that hey have supporting evidence.
It is not for you to be privy to what that evidence is – that will be dealt with by the judicial process in Germany.

Christian Brueckner is also the prime suspect in other crimes of which he is accused. 
That information is also released in the public domain.  Brueckner hasn’t yet faced charges for them either.
Probably a tad arrogant of you to imagine you have a better grasp of judicial process in Germany than the Germans do.


 ~ I see nothing hypocritical in my stance, and I object to the constant accusations being made against me. Please provide evidence to support your accusations or stop making them.

If you fail to see at the least the hypocrisy that your posting history reveals - both in relation to Brueckner and to the McCanns - as well as all who have a good word to say about them and on behalf of the child on whose behalf they have had to fight tooth and nail for over the past fifteen years – I am unable to assist you.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15058 on: January 25, 2022, 04:22:44 PM »
You say ~ I have pointed out anomalies in the accounts of the Tapas 9, mostly in response to those who believe there are none. I accuse them of failing to tell a coherent story about the events of 3rd May 2007, and have provided my evidence. That doesn't amount to accusing any of them of committing a crime.

Why bother!
What on earth compels you to obsess about what you think are "anomalies" in police statements made fifteen years ago - what drives your purpose for that.

 ~ CB has been accused of committing a crime by the German authorities; not by following due process, but by making public statements without any definitive evidence being provided.

Christian Brueckner is the declared prime suspect in a murder investigation. 
For the German authorities to have done that suggests that hey have supporting evidence.
It is not for you to be privy to what that evidence is – that will be dealt with by the judicial process in Germany.

Christian Brueckner is also the prime suspect in other crimes of which he is accused. 
That information is also released in the public domain.  Brueckner hasn’t yet faced charges for them either.
Probably a tad arrogant of you to imagine you have a better grasp of judicial process in Germany than the Germans do.


 ~ I see nothing hypocritical in my stance, and I object to the constant accusations being made against me. Please provide evidence to support your accusations or stop making them.

If you fail to see at the least the hypocrisy that your posting history reveals - both in relation to Brueckner and to the McCanns - as well as all who have a good word to say about them and on behalf of the child on whose behalf they have had to fight tooth and nail for over the past fifteen years – I am unable to assist you.
Well that was a waste of energy. Can we keep it on topic?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15059 on: January 25, 2022, 06:16:55 PM »
You say ~ I have pointed out anomalies in the accounts of the Tapas 9, mostly in response to those who believe there are none. I accuse them of failing to tell a coherent story about the events of 3rd May 2007, and have provided my evidence. That doesn't amount to accusing any of them of committing a crime.

Why bother!
What on earth compels you to obsess about what you think are "anomalies" in police statements made fifteen years ago - what drives your purpose for that.

 ~ CB has been accused of committing a crime by the German authorities; not by following due process, but by making public statements without any definitive evidence being provided.

Christian Brueckner is the declared prime suspect in a murder investigation. 
For the German authorities to have done that suggests that hey have supporting evidence.
It is not for you to be privy to what that evidence is – that will be dealt with by the judicial process in Germany.

Christian Brueckner is also the prime suspect in other crimes of which he is accused. 
That information is also released in the public domain.  Brueckner hasn’t yet faced charges for them either.
Probably a tad arrogant of you to imagine you have a better grasp of judicial process in Germany than the Germans do.


 ~ I see nothing hypocritical in my stance, and I object to the constant accusations being made against me. Please provide evidence to support your accusations or stop making them.

If you fail to see at the least the hypocrisy that your posting history reveals - both in relation to Brueckner and to the McCanns - as well as all who have a good word to say about them and on behalf of the child on whose behalf they have had to fight tooth and nail for over the past fifteen years – I am unable to assist you.

I can choose to make any point I want provided I do so within forum rules. You are free to reply so long as you comply with those rules also. At the moment you are making me feel bullied and impugned without verifiable cause.
It would be easy to respond in kind, but, as always, I prefer not to do so.
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