Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.

[Benice]

I think it's highly unlikely that Fiona Payne would mistake her own husband for someone else.

[Luz]

I think it's highly unlikely that Fiona Payne would mistake her own husband for someone else.

Which makes it even worse. If she didn't confound them she clearly pinned an innocent man just to feed the police with a suspect.

Murat was one of the many innocent victims the McCann case concocted over the time.

[stephen25000]

Which makes it even worse. If she didn't confound them she clearly pinned an innocent man just to feed the police with a suspect.

Murat was one of the many innocent victims the McCann case concocted over the time.

There's one for davel.

How many people, and I don't mean the mccanns or associates, have become 'victims' in this case by being accused of taking Madeleine without any foundation whatsoever ?

[pinkblossoms]

How many other people identified murat as being there that night not including mccanns or friends ?????

nanny Charlotte Pennington, who said she saw Mr Murat hanging around outside the Ocean Club's reception at about 10pm, and British holiday-maker Jayne Jensen, an unnamed British barrister and two unidentified British tourists who all claim to have seen him around the complex that night.
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[pinkblossoms]

Mr Murat's uncle Ralph Eveleigh was shown Mr Symington's photograph and exclaimed: "Bloody hell, it's Robert! They're very similar."
But Mr Murat's hopes that the likeness could help him clear his name were dealt a blow last night when Mr Symington said he left Praia da Luz at 6pm on May 3 and was seven miles away at the time of the witness sightings, between 10pm and midnight.

He said: "I categorically wasn't around on the night she vanished. I was at home with my family.
"I left Praia da Luz at 6pm on May 3 to go home. I live 10km away from here, so I was not in or around Luz that night. It couldn't have been me."

[Benice]

Which makes it even worse. If she didn't confound them she clearly pinned an innocent man just to feed the police with a suspect.

Murat was one of the many innocent victims the McCann case concocted over the time.

Absolute tosh imo.     The PJ gave the McCanns the impression that Murat was involved - and that it was just a matter of time before they arrested him.   It was only when KM read the files she realised there was never any evidence against him.       

IMO they also led RM to believe that JT had identified him as the abductor (in the same way they lied to GM about the 100% DNA match).    I have no doubt that he later discovered that wasn't true and that JT had never claimed to have seen him on the 3rd.   

RM was made an arguido by the PJ - from various information they received - none of which had come from the McCanns or their friends -  and it turned out they were wrong (again).

[Benice]

How many other people identified murat as being there that night not including mccanns or friends ?????

nanny Charlotte Pennington, who said she saw Mr Murat hanging around outside the Ocean Club's reception at about 10pm, and British holiday-maker Jayne Jensen, an unnamed British barrister and two unidentified British tourists who all claim to have seen him around the complex that night.
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Also Sylvia Batista (sp) a Mark Warner employee.

[Luz]

Mr Murat's uncle Ralph Eveleigh was shown Mr Symington's photograph and exclaimed: "Bloody hell, it's Robert! They're very similar."
But Mr Murat's hopes that the likeness could help him clear his name were dealt a blow last night when Mr Symington said he left Praia da Luz at 6pm on May 3 and was seven miles away at the time of the witness sightings, between 10pm and midnight.

He said: "I categorically wasn't around on the night she vanished. I was at home with my family.
"I left Praia da Luz at 6pm on May 3 to go home. I live 10km away from here, so I was not in or around Luz that night. It couldn't have been me."

Mr. David must be delighted after he patronized the mccann and invited them for dinner.

[stephen25000]

How many other people identified murat as being there that night not including mccanns or friends ?????

nanny Charlotte Pennington, who said she saw Mr Murat hanging around outside the Ocean Club's reception at about 10pm, and British holiday-maker Jayne Jensen, an unnamed British barrister and two unidentified British tourists who all claim to have seen him around the complex that night.
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They should have been shown Payne's photos,side by side with Murat's.

[Luz]

Absolute tosh imo.     The PJ gave the McCanns the impression that Murat was involved - and that it was just a matter of time before they arrested him.   It was only when KM read the files she realised there was never any evidence against him.       

IMO they also led RM to believe that JT had identified him as the abductor (in the same way they lied to GM about the 100% DNA match).    I have no doubt that he later discovered that wasn't true and that JT had never claimed to have seen him on the 3rd.   

RM was made an arguido by the PJ - from various information they received - none of which had come from the McCanns or their friends -  and it turned out they were wrong (again).

Go on blame the police. And as you are at it, blame them for the death of the child and the disappearance of her body.

[Redblossom]

Nothing ever came of anyone alledgedly saying they saw Murat on the night....most of it seems paper / metodo3 tittle tattle 7 months after the events...nothing in the police files except for people who were around that night who knew him saying they didnt see him......and sylvia baptista did not say she saw him personally....she didnt even know him.....just a case of mistaken identity imo at best....wouldnt want to speculate on the worst!

Eta

Thats as far as that lot go.....as to fiona payne, she reckons he introduced himself by name that night.....

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Dont  believe her..I too think the tapas three were entirely mistaken...at best......I mean in their rogatories they never knew which day was which....not reliable witnesses imo but at least OBrien had the nous to say it was possible he was wrong
As for Rachel Oldfield how can anyne trust what she says, when she comes out with gormless comments like the  had to lift the patio door shutters to go in and check on their kids......

[Redblossom]

There's one for davel.

How many people, and I don't mean the mccanns or associates, have become 'victims' in this case by being accused of taking Madeleine without any foundation whatsoever ?

Too many to count......and pretty disgusting at best

[colombosstogey]

Mr Murat's uncle Ralph Eveleigh was shown Mr Symington's photograph and exclaimed: "Bloody hell, it's Robert! They're very similar."
But Mr Murat's hopes that the likeness could help him clear his name were dealt a blow last night when Mr Symington said he left Praia da Luz at 6pm on May 3 and was seven miles away at the time of the witness sightings, between 10pm and midnight.

He said: "I categorically wasn't around on the night she vanished. I was at home with my family.
"I left Praia da Luz at 6pm on May 3 to go home. I live 10km away from here, so I was not in or around Luz that night. It couldn't have been me."

It seems that Mr Murat has a popular face, as there was another person who looked identical to him who was actually OUT SEARCHING that night and could have been mistaken for him.

Adriaan Jacobus Van Marais, who worked there and was searching until about 2am....

[Mr Gray]

Too many to count......and pretty disgusting at best

 Words that could be used to describe those who accuse the McCanns of being criminally involved in Maddies disappearance, without any foundation

[John]

I would query whether the date of Rachael's statement is correct. 

However -  do you now agree that from all their statements it's clear that it was not until AFTER they saw RM on TV that they recognised him as someone they'd seen on the night of the 3rd and were subsequently interviewed about that  -and therefore they were not responsible for his being made an Arguido - which is what you originally claimed?

Why would you query the date of the statement Benice?

Having read their statements again I would say that some members of the tapas-7 contributed to him being made an arguido.