Author Topic: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?  (Read 144768 times)

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Lyall

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #150 on: March 09, 2014, 12:55:13 PM »
As likely as not, a translation error ...

compridas

long.

Lyall

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #151 on: March 09, 2014, 12:56:48 PM »
As likely as not, a translation error ...

But then she goes on to say she didn't see it well, so why not just say that instead of the usual "it's translation error"?

AnneGuedes

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #152 on: March 09, 2014, 12:56:53 PM »
Which bit, the jammies or the McCanns having a suspiciously poor recollection of who exactly put their precious daughter to bed?
Mr McCann wasn't sure about the pyjamas, but looking at the remaining pyjamas how could they be wrong ? If the pyjamas don't match, the girl clearly wasn't Madeleine (remember how well they matched Tannerman's child's legs), which would explain that the e-fits weren't published.
Smithman's girl's long sleeves (and pants) pyjamas match more Innocentman's daughter, but she has a dark hair..

AnneGuedes

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #153 on: March 09, 2014, 01:00:36 PM »
But then she goes on to say she didn't have a clear view, so why not just say that instead of the usual "it's translation error"?
@)(++(*
Or a transcript error, "compridas" for "curtas", as "long" for "short".
A deaf/blind translator ? Or worse ?
What about the buttons ?

Lyall

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #154 on: March 09, 2014, 01:17:38 PM »
@)(++(*
Or a transcript error, "compridas" for "curtas", as "long" for "short".
A deaf/blind translator ? Or worse ?
What about the buttons ?

He [Martin Smith] adds that the group walked some metres apart from each other so they would have seen the individual in different positions.

>@@(*&)

Sherlock Holmes would love this puzzle.


AnneGuedes

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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #155 on: March 09, 2014, 01:19:43 PM »
He [Martin Smith] adds that the group walked some metres apart from each other so they would have seen the individual in different positions.

>@@(*&)

Sherlock Holmes would love this puzzle.
This is why only 3 of them came to PDL on the 26th of May. One for each perspective.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #156 on: March 09, 2014, 01:43:34 PM »
Smithman was not going down narrow lanes or brightly lit steps that he'd never used before. He knew how to get to his destination so he reached the church IMO - you follow that road and it takes you there. Go past the church and derelict house and it leads you to Kate's rocks.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1764.0

Smithman could have taken Maddie out to sea on a surfboard.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 01:56:56 PM by Wonderfulspam »
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Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #157 on: March 09, 2014, 02:03:13 PM »
Mr McCann wasn't sure about the pyjamas, but looking at the remaining pyjamas how could they be wrong ? If the pyjamas don't match, the girl clearly wasn't Madeleine (remember how well they matched Tannerman's child's legs), which would explain that the e-fits weren't published.
Smithman's girl's long sleeves (and pants) pyjamas match more Innocentman's daughter, but she has a dark hair..


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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #158 on: March 09, 2014, 03:33:03 PM »
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1764.0

Smithman could have taken Maddie out to sea on a surfboard.

Funny that the MW boat instructor is not in the files who Charlotte Pennington claimed she saw. I think she meant Benjamin Wilkins? His passport photo is in the files. Have we a confirmed name?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P4/04_VOLUME_IVa_Page_861.jpg

« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 03:34:48 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #159 on: March 09, 2014, 04:10:54 PM »
Smithman was not going down narrow lanes or brightly lit steps that he'd never used before. He knew how to get to his destination so he reached the church IMO - you follow that road and it takes you there. Go past the church and derelict house and it leads you to Kate's rocks.
Do you mean the Rocha Negro ?   Pat Brown went on about it intimating that it had a special significance to Kate and Gerry.   ?>)()<

Pathfinder , even if Smithman WAS going towards the church, he had almost a mile to go to Rocha Negro !

And he was going in the opposite direction to the route he originally chose. 
Have you been up there, to that volcanic outcrop?  It is one hell of a climb and would be a bit uneven in the dark.  I had a lift part way up, then gave up on the flat area about half way up.


Heri has a very good analysis and vector diagram showing the likely direction that he weas heading for   >.. and it certainly wasn't Rocha Negro

http://espacioexterior.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-janosch.html

With thanks to Heriberto,  Heris vector diagram indicating the likely places he was heading for.  The top part of the arrow stem indicates 5A and the arrow head indicates Aoifies [sp?] sighting



With Rocha Negro the best part of a mile to the east, dont think he was heading there tbh,

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #160 on: March 09, 2014, 04:36:30 PM »
He [Martin Smith] adds that the group walked some metres apart from each other so they would have seen the individual in different positions.

>@@(*&)

Sherlock Holmes would love this puzzle.

Interesting theory, Lyall, that so-called 'translation errors' in this case are really parts of a substitution cypher.

Is that what you mean?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #161 on: March 09, 2014, 04:49:59 PM »
Do you mean the Rocha Negro ?   Pat Brown went on about it intimating that it had a special significance to Kate and Gerry.   ?>)()<

Pathfinder , even if Smithman WAS going towards the church, he had almost a mile to go to Rocha Negro !

And he was going in the opposite direction to the route he originally chose. 
Have you been up there, to that volcanic outcrop?  It is one hell of a climb and would be a bit uneven in the dark.  I had a lift part way up, then gave up on the flat area about half way up.


Heri has a very good analysis and vector diagram showing the likely direction that he weas heading for   >.. and it certainly wasn't Rocha Negro

http://espacioexterior.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-janosch.html

With thanks to Heriberto,  Heris vector diagram indicating the likely places he was heading for.  The top part of the arrow stem indicates 5A and the arrow head indicates Aoifies [sp?] sighting



With Rocha Negro the best part of a mile to the east, dont think he was heading there tbh,

He didn't have time to go to Rocha Negra. I never said he went there. Rocha Negra is a possible moving to place at 5-6am but getting the keys to the church makes me think different.

1. Asking directions to church re alibi
2. Getting church keys
« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 04:56:15 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #162 on: March 09, 2014, 04:51:17 PM »
This is why only 3 of them came to PDL on the 26th of May. One for each perspective.

what are you on about Anne ?   Dont understand.  Pls could you explain.

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #163 on: March 09, 2014, 05:01:31 PM »
Funny that the MW boat instructor is not in the files who Charlotte Pennington claimed she saw.......
Is that based on the statistical logic that her coming to know the person during the week makes it more likely to be an employee?
BTW this interesting sighting seems to have been on the 5th at about 2330 IMO (might be wrong)

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Mr Smiths claim just pie in the sky after all?
« Reply #164 on: March 09, 2014, 06:15:59 PM »
Is that based on the statistical logic that her coming to know the person during the week makes it more likely to be an employee?
BTW this interesting sighting seems to have been on the 5th at about 2330 IMO (might be wrong)

She hadn't been working there long had she?  So she probably was getting to know other MW employees. Not sure but it's interesting that his passport photo is in the files but nothing else?
« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 06:17:44 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.