Wandering Off Topic

[misty]

IMO the suggestions (to various people that they might assist by offering free jets) came from London.

You're probably right &  I think we both know from whom - money no object and all that. It suggests that someone knew rather more about the background issues than have ever been disclosed, possibly not even to the parents.

[pegasus]

Well, I think we can safely say it wasn't GB.
https://www.modernghana.com/news/161263/uk-cancels-plan-for-presidential-jets.html
... (snip)

To his credit he was opposed to the plan to lease multi-million dedicated jets full-time. The much more efficient option was chosen, of chartering jets per journey and only when essential, for example to assist the flood emergency.victims in the north. 

[misty]

To his credit he was opposed to the plan to lease multi-million dedicated jets full-time. The much more efficient option was chosen, of chartering jets per journey and only when essential, for example to assist the flood emergency.victims in the north.

Was that why you were reading about Carlisle? I doubt any jets would have been of assistance to the people there.
And full biscuit production has only recently resumed - the ex PM's were guilty of a heinous crime in not dealing with that situation sooner.

[pegasus]

Was that why you were reading about Carlisle? I doubt any jets would have been of assistance to the people there.
And full biscuit production has only recently resumed - the ex PM's were guilty of a heinous crime in not dealing with that situation sooner.

It's up to you whether you believe me or not Misty.

[misty]

It's up to you whether you believe me or not Misty.

I'm not disbelieving you, Pegasus, as I don't know exactly what you've read about the floods, use of jets & which year you are referring to. You mentioned Carlisle, which was extremely badly affected on more than one occasion & last year they used a drone to obtain pictures of the devastation. 

[pegasus]

I'm not disbelieving you, Pegasus, as I don't know exactly what you've read about the floods, use of jets & which year you are referring to. You mentioned Carlisle, which was extremely badly affected on more than one occasion & last year they used a drone to obtain pictures of the devastation.

The situation on 19 Nov 2009 "A landslip between Carlisle and Penrith caused the West Coast Main Line from London to Glasgow to close and there is flooding on the line at Lockerbie. ... The AA said it was "flat out" rescuing stricken cars and advised against all but essential travel." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8366360.stm

[misty]

The situation on 19 Nov 2009 "A landslip between Carlisle and Penrith caused the West Coast Main Line from London to Glasgow to close and there is flooding on the line at Lockerbie. ... The AA said it was "flat out" rescuing stricken cars and advised against all but essential travel." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8366360.stm

I'm still not seeing anything about private jets, just RAF helicopters. I give up.

[Robittybob1]

It is always interesting the information that Pegasus knows

Quote from: pegasus on June 18, 2014, 10:04:15 PM
An in-apartment child-sitting service was available at Mark Warner PDL.
And not some member of staff you and your kid don't know.
The same nannies who you trusted your kid to in the day were available for in-apartment child-sitting.
It was about 15 euros an hour IIRC ?

[pegasus]

I'm still not seeing anything about private jets, just RAF helicopters. I give up.

He went by jet Misty, makes sense given the rail and road delays.

[misty]

He went by jet Misty, makes sense given the rail and road delays.

I'll take your word for it as I can only see a reference to GB going there, not how he got there. Hilary Benn visited the day before, Cameron, Sadiq Khan Prince Charles also reportedly visited at separate times during the next week. That's a lot of private jets!

http://www.floodready.co.uk/uploadedfiles/case_studies/12/Cockermouth%20emergency%20response%20timeline%202009.pdf

[pegasus]

It is always interesting the information that Pegasus knows

"extra baby-sitting can be arranged in resort through the Childcare Manager at 12 to 15 euros per hour"
Source: Algarve Resident 10 May 2007

[pegasus]

I'll take your word for it as I can only see a reference to GB going there, not how he got there. Hilary Benn visited the day before, Cameron, Sadiq Khan Prince Charles also reportedly visited at separate times during the next week. That's a lot of private jets!

Thanks I didn't know they all went Misty. Maybe they all hitchhiked up the M6?

[misty]

Thanks I didn't know they all went Misty. Maybe they all hitchhiked up the M6?

LOL. It's normally quicker to walk it anyway.

[pegasus]

LOL. It's normally quicker to walk it anyway.

LOL but politicians tend to keep the wellies spotlessly clean until the actual photo-opportunities Misty. 

Back on topic, several of the highest people in gov had offered to do anything to help. Gov were involved in setting up both trips, meeting at airports, arranging for meetings with VIPs, etc. Gov (incl FCO) often charters or contracts or arranges private jets. So solving the question "who really arranged for the jets to be provided?" is easier than a piece of cake. And you may have noticed on every leg of both trips there was a full-time gov employee on the jets.

[pegasus]

In real world solved cases where a perp wanted to ensure something/someone was not directly seen while being transported, there are 3 common transportation types:

bag etc
motor vehicle
none