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Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1965 on: March 29, 2017, 10:44:03 PM »
Left the body in his van but still acting normal.

A man who beat a woman to death with a hammer after she sought money from him for an abortion was acting “completely normal” on the evening after the assault, his trial has heard.

Roy Webster (40), of Ashbree, Ashford, Co Wicklow has pleaded not guilty to murder but guilty to the manslaughter of Anne Shortall (47) on April 3rd, 2015 at The Murrough, Co Wicklow. His plea was not accepted by the State.
The Central Criminal Court on Thursday heard a statement from Mr Webster’s wife’s friend, Carmel Phibbs, which was read to the court by prosecuting counsel Paul Greene SC. Ms Phibbs said she was at the Webster home on the evening of April 3rd, 2015 when Mr Webster arrived back.
The court previously heard that earlier that day Mr Webster beat Ms Shortall to death with a hammer and left her taped up body in his van. The attack happened after she sought money for an abortion and threatened to tell his wife about a sexual encounter they had four months earlier. Patholohy reports showed she was not pregnant.

“Roy was acting completely normal,” said Ms Phibbs.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/man-acted-completely-normal-after-killing-woman-with-hammer-1.3013108

I thought you were referring  to Prout.

Offline pathfinder73

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« Reply #1966 on: March 29, 2017, 10:47:54 PM »
I thought you were referring  to Prout.

He was alone on a 276 acre farm. He had plenty of time to clean up his mess but he didn't fool Eddie.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfie

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« Reply #1967 on: March 29, 2017, 11:04:03 PM »
He was alone on a 276 acre farm. He had plenty of time to clean up his mess but he didn't fool Eddie.
yes he did, Eddie didn't alert in the places where the body was, only where th body wasn't.

Offline pathfinder73

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« Reply #1968 on: March 29, 2017, 11:27:24 PM »
yes he did, Eddie didn't alert in the places where the body was, only where th body wasn't.

Eddie was right in his alert for cadaver scent - Eddie was professionally trained to detect it. Prout lied for years and you believe the word of a liar - I'm not surprised.

"An EVRD dog received additional training on human cadavers which were buried on land and submerged underwater. This took place in America and facilitated by the FBI at the University of Tennessee.

The scent detection threshold of the dog is greatly enhanced."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfie

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« Reply #1969 on: March 29, 2017, 11:29:33 PM »
Eddie was right in his alert for cadaver scent - Eddie was professionally trained to detect it. Prout lied for years and you believe the word of a liar - I'm not surprised.

"An EVRD dog received additional training on human cadavers which were buried on land and submerged underwater. This took place in America and facilitated by the FBI at the University of Tennessee.

The scent detection threshold of the dog is greatly enhanced."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm
WTF are you on about?

Offline pathfinder73

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« Reply #1970 on: March 29, 2017, 11:37:42 PM »
You believe the confession of a liar. Got any evidence to back it up? Eddie's alert was correct for human cadaver scent and any denying from you will not change that proven fact.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #1971 on: March 30, 2017, 12:22:25 AM »
If Eddie is trained to alert to cadaver odour, we are right to think that is the trigger of the alert - cadaver odour.
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Offline John

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« Reply #1972 on: March 30, 2017, 12:23:51 AM »
If Eddie is trained to alert to cadaver odour, we are right to think that is the trigger of the alert - cadaver odour.

Not when he alerted to other substances.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #1973 on: March 30, 2017, 12:25:57 AM »
Not when he alerted to other substances.
Did these other substances not have traces of cadaver odour within them.  What were you  thinking of?
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Alfie

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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1974 on: March 30, 2017, 08:14:46 AM »
You believe the confession of a liar. Got any evidence to back it up? Eddie's alert was correct for human cadaver scent and any denying from you will not change that proven fact.
Once again, I ask you wtf are you on about?  Which part of the facts of the case are you disputing?

Offline pathfinder73

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« Reply #1975 on: March 30, 2017, 10:25:18 AM »
That Eddie alerted in the wrong place according to you - you believe the word of a murderer/liar over a professionally trained cadaver scent detecting dog. To me that says a lot about you. Eddie was not wrong.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 10:33:51 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #1976 on: March 30, 2017, 11:15:22 AM »
That Eddie alerted in the wrong place according to you - you believe the word of a murderer/liar over a professionally trained cadaver scent detecting dog. To me that says a lot about you. Eddie was not wrong.

Which Murderer/Liar?

Offline Robittybob1

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« Reply #1977 on: March 30, 2017, 11:22:42 AM »
Which Murderer/Liar?
Seems like PF thesis and freedom of speech is being exercised.
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Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1978 on: March 30, 2017, 02:13:56 PM »
That Eddie alerted in the wrong place according to you - you believe the word of a murderer/liar over a professionally trained cadaver scent detecting dog. To me that says a lot about you. Eddie was not wrong.
So you dispute the established facts of the case then - that Prout murdered his wife in the lodge, bundled her body into the landrover and buried her on the grounds of his farm, all locations that the dog failed to alert to?

Offline pathfinder73

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« Reply #1979 on: March 30, 2017, 02:30:37 PM »
So you dispute the established facts of the case then - that Prout murdered his wife in the lodge, bundled her body into the landrover and buried her on the grounds of his farm, all locations that the dog failed to alert to?

The body was found well wrapped in plastic sheeting so scent could not escape.  Can you provide any evidence found at the lodge?

"Mrs Prout's remains were found wrapped in a curtain and plastic sheeting, the inquest was told."

Where was the curtain taken by cadaver hands?

"A millionaire farmer "snapped" and strangled his wife during an argument before sitting down to a glass of whisky."

Where was he sitting? Eddie alerted at the sofa.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.