Wandering Off Topic

[jassi]

I cn only assume they did, once they stopped laughing at the 30/40 seconds away, story, and the mother running out to go get the Tapas group leaving babies alone again after one had already been abducted.

 I mean come on...

"Why wouldn't the trained investigators of the PJ do what had occurred to a journalist to do in walking the distance and maybe even timing" 

Well , them trained investigators probably wouldn't because they could not see  people sitting at the Tapas from the balcony, they also didn't believe they were'like sitting in a garden' So the steps and times would not have been relevant within the first few hours...too busy munching them samiches, watching Kate n Gerry searching all alone.

Don't forget that being obese sardine-munchers, they would take a lot longer to do the journey than our super-fit heros, so the timing might not be so accurate.
If only they had arranged a re-enactment they could have timed these athletes

[Erngath]

Don't forget that being obese sardine-munchers, they would take a lot longer to do the journey than our super-fit heros, so the timing might not be so accurate.
If only they had arranged a re-enactment they could have timed these athletes

Sardines don't contribute to weight gain.
Quite healthy I would have thought.

[jassi]

Sardines don't contribute to weight gain.
Quite healthy I would have thought.

Amaral was a bit of a porker at the beginning though perhaps it was the liquid lunches that piled the pounds on 

[Robittybob1]

Sardines maybe a healthy source of omega 3 oil but I see no reason why they would not contribute to obesity.

[sadie]

That is not the point GA was making.  It is from the perspective of an intruder.  Did an intruder know the Tapas 9 had trouble seeing the apartment?

Whilst The Mccanns were not in the best position to see the apartment, Rob, I dont think that is true with others in the group. 

The bushes had just been pruned back and  the Patio area was illuminated by the street lamp immediately opposite

Please do not forget that I have been there and eaten in that Tapas restaurant and weighed up the view of the Patio area that any intruder would have had to pass thru.   However the view of the route to the patio window to the parents bedroom was not illuminated in the same way.  If that patio window had been left unlocked then I think that it just might have been possible for an intruder to have entered via that route.

Many moons ago, John highlighted the fact that although the patio area was illuminated by the street llamp opposite, much of the stairs up were in the shade.  From a careful analysis of the exact light source position I believe this to be true.

I also think that the bedroom patio door was hidden from the Tapas group by a big bush and that the garden edge of the balcony was in shade.  The steps up (not illuminated) went up to the shaded portion of the balcony and across to that shrub hidden patio window.


However even if an intruder was going across the narrow shaded area of the balcony (and so his actual body was not illuminated) I am pretty sure that his body shape would stand out like a sore thumb against the illuminated area of the balcony behind.


Hope this is readily understandable.



PS I still think that via the unlit black hole of the front door is the most likely entry point.

[IndigoJ]

Whilst The Mccanns were not in the best position to see the apartment, Rob, I dont think that is true with others in the group. 

The bushes had just been pruned back and  the Patio area was illuminated by the street lamp immediately opposite

Please do not forget that I have been there and eaten in that Tapas restaurant and weighed up the view of the Patio area that any intruder would have had to pass thru.   However the view of the route to the patio window to the parents bedroom was not illuminated in the same way.  If that patio window had been left unlocked then I think that it just might have been possible for an intruder to have entered via that route.

Many moons ago, John highlighted the fact that although the patio area was illuminated by the street llamp opposite, much of the stairs up were in the shade.  From a careful analysis of the exact light source position I believe this to be true.

I also think that the bedroom patio door was hidden from the Tapas group by a big bush and that the garden edge of the balcony was in shade.  The steps up (not illuminated) went up to the shaded portion of the balcony and across to that shrub hidden patio window.


However even if an intruder was going across the narrow shaded area of the balcony (and so his actual body was not illuminated) I am pretty sure that his body shape would stand out like a sore thumb against the illuminated area of the balcony behind.


Hope this is readily understandable.



PS I still think that via the unlit black hole of the front door is the most likely entry point.

Would you think it reasonable to leave your kids unattended in that apartment while you ate? I was pretty shocked when i saw a programme on this and the map showing the distance from apartment to where they were eating, imo they took one hell of a risk in leaving them it wasnt as though they were very near to the apartment

[IndigoJ]

my theory on this is that she was abducted by a very organised pedophile group and she is likely still alive.

[Robittybob1]

Would you think it reasonable to leave your kids unattended in that apartment while you ate? I was pretty shocked when i saw a programme on this and the map showing the distance from apartment to where they were eating, imo they took one hell of a risk in leaving them it wasnt as though they were very near to the apartment

Apparently it is common practice at these holiday destinations.

[G-Unit]

Apparently it is common practice at these holiday destinations.

Who says?

[slartibartfast]

Whilst The Mccanns were not in the best position to see the apartment, Rob, I dont think that is true with others in the group. 

The bushes had just been pruned back and  the Patio area was illuminated by the street lamp immediately opposite

Please do not forget that I have been there and eaten in that Tapas restaurant and weighed up the view of the Patio area that any intruder would have had to pass thru.   However the view of the route to the patio window to the parents bedroom was not illuminated in the same way.  If that patio window had been left unlocked then I think that it just might have been possible for an intruder to have entered via that route.

Many moons ago, John highlighted the fact that although the patio area was illuminated by the street llamp opposite, much of the stairs up were in the shade.  From a careful analysis of the exact light source position I believe this to be true.

I also think that the bedroom patio door was hidden from the Tapas group by a big bush and that the garden edge of the balcony was in shade.  The steps up (not illuminated) went up to the shaded portion of the balcony and across to that shrub hidden patio window.


However even if an intruder was going across the narrow shaded area of the balcony (and so his actual body was not illuminated) I am pretty sure that his body shape would stand out like a sore thumb against the illuminated area of the balcony behind.


Hope this is readily understandable.



PS I still think that via the unlit black hole of the front door is the most likely entry point.

This all assumes that all those at the table ignored everyone around them, forgot about the food in front of them and concentrated soley on the patio doors. Unlikely in a real world situation.

[Angelo222]

Would you think it reasonable to leave your kids unattended in that apartment while you ate? I was pretty shocked when i saw a programme on this and the map showing the distance from apartment to where they were eating, imo they took one hell of a risk in leaving them it wasnt as though they were very near to the apartment

Bottom line is they did take a risk and have paid for it every day since.

[Angelo222]

my theory on this is that she was abducted by a very organised pedophile group and she is likely still alive.

The evidence says otherwise.  Have a look at the police scent dogs thread.

[Mr Gray]

Bottom line is they did take a risk and have paid for it every day since.

I actually agree...although maddie paid the highest price

[slartibartfast]

I actually agree...although maddie paid the highest price

That’s an admission from a supporter.

[IndigoJ]

The evidence says otherwise.  Have a look at the police scent dogs thread.

I have read about the police scent dogs, I am not convinced at all! if she was dead her body would have been found by now.